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[RallyMo]

19 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

Stop being obtuse, you know that isn't what I said.

I'm not being obtuse, at all. I think you're way off base here. I can't think of any honest to goodness reason why "finding" somebody is a concern. If a person is to be found, their DNA has to be available and then a known somebody that's already consented to have matches to their DNA made has to have submitted a sample. The ONLY issue is the submission of somebody's DNA without their knowledge or consent, which is what the police did with the DNA of the killer.

I don't think that there was any reason for me to obtain consent of other people as the only way they'd be matched against me is if they submitted samples of their own. Furthermore, there's a decent number of relatives out there that one doesn't know.

 

[Blarg]

I think it's a pretty good idea to have that piece of mind your family reunion isn't attended by serial killers. Unless, of course, you really want Cousin Eddie to dissapear for good.

[RallyMo]

6 minutes ago, Blarg said:

I think it's a pretty good idea to have that piece of mind your family reunion isn't attended by serial killers. Unless, of course, you really want Cousin Eddie to dissapear for good.

This is also a valid concern. 

[Rico]

22 minutes ago, RallyMo said:

The ONLY issue is the submission of somebody's DNA without their knowledge or consent, which is what the police did with the DNA of the killer.

 

 

I would say you lose your right to privacy on your DNA the moment you leave it behind in a crime.  I'm no lawyer but I'm sure there is already legal standing on this issue.  

[RallyMo]

2 minutes ago, Rico said:

I would say you lose your right to privacy on your DNA the moment you leave it behind in a crime.  I'm no lawyer but I'm sure there is already legal standing on this issue.  

Exactamundo.

[Rico]

The part that is sketchy is them digging through his trash to get a matching sample. But the supreme court has ruled trash out on the street as fair game.

[RallyMo]

1 hour ago, mtangelsfan said:

Stop being obtuse, you know that isn't what I said.

Also, how many relatives would you have a person consent before sending in their own DNA? It just doesn't make much sense to me.

[Taylor]

Have at it, libs.

 

 

[Tank]

7 hours ago, Catwhoshatinthehat said:

Yes and while he deserves to spend eternity roasting on a spit in hell that's extremely unsettling.  History has shown us that information like that won't stop at finding killers or even just criminals it will end up being used for marketing and everything under the sun.    

we live in a time where they are mining the eff out of all the data they can find about each of us. I'm not giving them more info about me than is necessary, and right now, my DNA isn't necessary for anyone to have.

if anyone else wants to roll the dice on this, best wishes. i hope it doesn't come back to haunt you or someone you love.

[mtangelsfan]

14 hours ago, Rico said:

I would say you lose your right to privacy on your DNA the moment you leave it behind in a crime.  I'm no lawyer but I'm sure there is already legal standing on this issue.  

For you and Rally, do you believe that police should have a warrant to get your DNA?

[Rico]

21 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

For you and Rally, do you believe that police should have a warrant to get your DNA?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_v._Greenwood

This is the case that police use to get people's DNA without a warrant.  This is the part I feel is sketchy, but currently it's totally legal.

[mtangelsfan]

You didn't really answer my question.

[RallyMo]

4 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

You didn't really answer my question.

I do.

I also think that you don't need to consent relatives before submitting your own DNA to a service like 23andme.

[mtangelsfan]

But you have basically given their DNA to the police

[Blarg]

No, you haven't. You have submitted genetic markers unique to yourself that can be matched with other alike markers but like snowflakes (not whiney libs snowflakes) there is not an exact match. 

[RallyMo]

2 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

But you have basically given their DNA to the police

No. I have not. Honestly, I don't have a single regret about using 23andme at this point. I'll elaborate later when I have a chance to. Super busy today.

[Tank]

7 hours ago, RallyMo said:

No. I have not. Honestly, I don't have a single regret about using 23andme at this point. I'll elaborate later when I have a chance to. Super busy today.

so don't keep us in suspense . . . are you and senator elizabeth warren related or not?!?

[RallyMo]

7 hours ago, Tank said:

so don't keep us in suspense . . . are you and senator elizabeth warren related or not?!?

Uh, nope.

[RallyMo]

So, @Tank, it turns out that I actually am Elizabeth Warren. I, too, was shocked.

[Tank]

2 hours ago, RallyMo said:

So, @Tank, it turns out that I actually am Elizabeth Warren. I, too, was shocked.

so let's share a bowl together, sky eagle.

[RallyMo]

2 hours ago, Tank said:

so let's share a bowl together, sky eagle.

I'm too busy Senatoring and preparing to run for POTUS. Sorry.

[Tank]

5 hours ago, RallyMo said:

I'm too busy Senatoring and preparing to run for POTUS. Sorry.

yeah, sure.

guess i'll have to call my old buddy, two wolves humping.

[red321]

Republican Candidate (and convicted felon and coal slurry aficionado) for the Senate...Don Blakenship

 

Cocaine Mitch and the China People...that kind of sounds like a band name

[mtangelsfan]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/amazon-halts-seattle-expansion-over-164956641.html

So the Seattle City Council was caught off guard because Amazon has halted it's big campus there.  Even though the city has enacted a $500.00 per employee tax on companies there.

Wait, you mean some companies won't want to pay the tax?  I can't believe it.

[gotbeer]

11 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/amazon-halts-seattle-expansion-over-164956641.html

So the Seattle City Council was caught off guard because Amazon has halted it's big campus there.  Even though the city has enacted a $500.00 per employee tax on companies there.

Wait, you mean some companies won't want to pay the tax?  I can't believe it.

It'll be funny when Amazon builds its second headquarters, then decides to shrink their Seattle one due to high taxes.  

BTW, LA still delusionally thinks they have a good chance at getting the headquarters.