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[Jason]

http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/04/24/man-jailed-after-giving-middle-finger-to-speed-camera.html

8 months for using a laser jammer? 

[arch stanton]

I guess he’s accused of obstructing his own justice 

[Blarg]

21 hours ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

So him and I have something in common.

You both wear sweater vests?

[Make Angels Great Again]

13 minutes ago, Blarg said:

You both wear sweater vests?

 

It's a good look.

Very distinguished.

[Tank]

2 hours ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

It's a good look.

Very distinguished.

agreed! Go Bucs!!

[gotbeer]

While it's good they caught the Golden State Killer.  Now it coming out on how they caught him.  So what's everyone's thoughts on how they caught him?  Using a DNA site like ancenstry to narrow down the suspects.  Is this good policing, or a total invasion of privacy?  Could you imagine if all the DNA evidence got tossed out due to the using this data?

Police used consumer genealogical websites to identify Golden State Killer suspect

[well_red]

30 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

While it's good they caught the Golden State Killer.  Now it coming out on how they caught him.  So what's everyone's thoughts on how they caught him?  Using a DNA site like ancenstry to narrow down the suspects.  Is this good policing, or a total invasion of privacy?  Could you imagine if all the DNA evidence got tossed out due to the using this data?

Police used consumer genealogical websites to identify Golden State Killer suspect

"congratulations!  you are 42% croatian, 26% german,  and someone in your family is likely a serial rapist & murderer".  

does everyone who paid the fee to get their genealogy test from those sights also know they consented to possibly incriminating everyone in their distant family? i'm all for modern forensics technology but this seems sketchy, especially if they just took a list of possibly family matches, staked them all out and waited until they each threw away their tray at mcdonalds.  guess it depends on the details of how the investigation went down.    

[Tank]

55 minutes ago, well_red said:

"congratulations!  you are 42% croatian, 26% german,  and someone in your family is likely a serial rapist & murderer".  

does everyone who paid the fee to get their genealogy test from those sights also know they consented to possibly incriminating everyone in their distant family? i'm all for modern forensics technology but this seems sketchy, especially if they just took a list of possibly family matches, staked them all out and waited until they each threw away their tray at mcdonalds.  guess it depends on the details of how the investigation went down.    

and that's exactly my objection to using sites like this.

i have absolutely nothing to hide, but i have zero interest in someone else gaining access to that kind of information about me.

[red321]

You consent to sharing your data publicly when you use those sites, and it also looks like there is an "aggregator" site which you can go to and then submit your dna profile from one of the other sites. Looks like that is what might have been used.

Will be interesting to get more details on how the process worked, and I'm sure the courts will be asked to rule on this...I'm guessing there are a lot of perpetrators whose assholes are clenched just a bit tighter right now.

If you get that odd call from your second cousin asking...hey...you know that Ancestry.com gift certificate I sent you...

[Blarg]

Welcome to 23 years in prison and Me DNA kit. You don't have to take the test to be part of the aggregate. So you won't ever have a choice to keep your DNA profile secure if one blood related family member does take it. I always thought this was a sneaky way to catalogue everyone's DNA profile for government use. 

[RallyMo]

14 hours ago, gotbeer said:

While it's good they caught the Golden State Killer.  Now it coming out on how they caught him.  So what's everyone's thoughts on how they caught him?  Using a DNA site like ancenstry to narrow down the suspects.  Is this good policing, or a total invasion of privacy?  Could you imagine if all the DNA evidence got tossed out due to the using this data?

Police used consumer genealogical websites to identify Golden State Killer suspect

I think it's GREAT policing. This is the world we live in.

[RallyMo]

I've used 23 and me. I knew what the risks and benefits were when I used it. I know what I was consenting to.

[Blarg]

7 minutes ago, RallyMo said:

I think it's GREAT policing. This is the world we live in.

Statute of limitations increase in the near future? 

[RallyMo]

4 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Statute of limitations increase in the near future? 

It'll be really interesting. 

[Blarg]

Maybe they will finally track down the SOB that stole my car radio back in '78. That was a top of the line Marantz 420 CompuTuner, goddammit! 

[RallyMo]

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

Maybe they will finally track down the SOB that stole my car radio back in '78. That was a top of the line Marantz 420 CompuTuner, goddammit! 

I hope so. That's a big deal.

The things that are and will be made possible by harnessing DNA are amazing. They are wonderful and very scary. 

[well_red]

It's all fine when they are going after serial murderers.  But what happens when someone in Alabama wants to figure out who got an abortion?  Or some DEA agent wants to know who smoke a doobie in Colorado?  The precedent is staggering due to it's potential for abuse.

[mtangelsfan]

3 hours ago, RallyMo said:

I've used 23 and me. I knew what the risks and benefits were when I used it. I know what I was consenting to.

And all of your relatives were ok with what you consented all of them to?

[gotbeer]

Oregon man misidentified in 2017 as California serial killing suspect

 

[RallyMo]

9 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

And all of your relatives were ok with what you consented all of them to?

What did I consent them to? I submitted none of their specific DNA to the site.

[mtangelsfan]

Doesn't matter, their DNA is connected to yours

[RallyMo]

1 hour ago, mtangelsfan said:

Doesn't matter, their DNA is connected to yours

And??????

[mtangelsfan]

And they can find them through your DNA 

[RallyMo]

28 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

And they can find them through your DNA 

That's kinda the whole deal, though. Finding people is the appeal. In my experience, a user has to consent to being linked to others. Given that, it becomes a case of whether this is tantamount to identity fraud. If they violated the terms of the service, that's just like any other identity fraud, no?

[Spirit]

On 4/27/2018 at 1:17 PM, mtangelsfan said:

And all of your relatives were ok with what you consented all of them to?

 

So the answer is, he didn't give them the option.