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[mtangelsfan]

Again, what is your solution?  Do you think anyone in the country should be able to vote?

[Glen]

12 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

What is your solution Glen.  So far all you've done is shoot down everything.  I remember when you said you were not opposed to requiring ID's to vote.  Have you changed your position?

See what Red posted above.  I've said I don't mind IDs to vote as long as the IDs are easy to get.  As you can see from above, that isn't nearly always the case.  Note that most (if not all) if these impedances happen in areas that tend to vote strongly Democratic.  I have a hard time believing that's a coincidence.  

[Glen]

Just now, mtangelsfan said:

Again, what is your solution?  Do you think anyone in the country should be able to vote?

 

Since voting for president is a nationwide event, perhaps we should go to some sort of national voter ID which also must be accepted by every state.  How that would happen I'm not sure, but it's a possible solution.

[red321]

18 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

Again, what is your solution?  Do you think anyone in the country should be able to vote?

Solution to what? What problem is Voter ID trying to solve? There are almost no cases of documented voter impersonation fraud, and their certainly are not documented cases of a vast voter impersonation conspiracy with hundreds or  thousands of people going from voting location to voting location and impersonating people on the voter rolls.

[nate]

It is documented... to happen in less than one one hundredth of a percentage point of the actual vote.

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Glen said:

See what Red posted above.  I've said I don't mind IDs to vote as long as the IDs are easy to get.  As you can see from above, that isn't nearly always the case.  Note that most (if not all) if these impedances happen in areas that tend to vote strongly Democratic.  I have a hard time believing that's a coincidence.  

IDs are not hard to get. Getting off your ass and doing it seems to be the problem. 

Red listed how many people in Texas do not have a valid ID for voting. It does not prove they are unable, if they wanted one, to get that ID. You guys are making shit up out of shit statistics that has nothing to do with getting a valid ID for voting. 

And it has zero to do with race. 

 

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Glen said:

 

Since voting for president is a nationwide event, perhaps we should go to some sort of national voter ID which also must be accepted by every state.  How that would happen I'm not sure, but it's a possible solution.

Glen opens the door to embedded tracking chips. Thanks, buddy. 

[red321]

19 minutes ago, Blarg said:

IDs are not hard to get. Getting off your ass and doing it seems to be the problem. 

Red listed how many people in Texas do not have a valid ID for voting. It does not prove they are unable, if they wanted one, to get that ID. You guys are making shit up out of shit statistics that has nothing to do with getting a valid ID for voting. 

And it has zero to do with race. 

 

you keep beating that dead horse, facts and data points notwithstanding

[yvangelfan]

4 hours ago, red321 said:

I think this is my favorite anecdote...

Many ID-issuing offices maintain limited business hours. For example, the office in Sauk City, Wisconsin is open only on the fifth Wednesday of any month. But only four months in 2012 — February, May, August, and October — have five Wednesdays.

 

This was also the case in 2016 apparently

This is my favorite anecdote..........

I'll bet if any of these people hit a jackpot at Morongo Casino for $1199 or more, they'll find a picture ID in a jiffy.........

[Glen]

That's not an anecdote.

[Rico]

3 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

Again, what is your solution?  Do you think anyone in the country should be able to vote?

Well the constitution applies to everyone in the country.  So why not?

[Spirit]

1 minute ago, Rico said:

Well the constitution applies to everyone in the country.  So why not?

 

It does?

 

 

[red321]

11 minutes ago, Glen said:

That's not an anecdote.

It's a Breitbert comment 

[Rico]

5 minutes ago, Geoff said:

 

It does?

 

 

Yes.

[mtangelsfan]

1 hour ago, Rico said:

Yes.

No

[Jason]

2 hours ago, Rico said:

Yes.

Even non citizens? 

[Rico]

14 minutes ago, Jason said:

Even non citizens? 

Yes.

[mtangelsfan]

Then there is no point in citizenship.  

[Jason]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

Even non citizens? 

 

2 hours ago, Rico said:

Yes.

I know democrat politicians would like that but I'm actually shocked you believe it.

[RallyMo]

8 hours ago, yvangelfan said:

This is my favorite anecdote..........

I'll bet if any of these people hit a jackpot at Morongo Casino for $1199 or more, they'll find a picture ID in a jiffy.........

I love you so much.

[Glen]

yv: this is my favorite fruit:

 

[RallyMo]

2 hours ago, Glen said:

yv: this is my favorite fruit:

 

Nice anecdote!

[nate]

Adam is my favorite fruit

[Tank]

On 12/21/2017 at 8:26 AM, mtangelsfan said:

That is stupid.  Like I have argued, the process for getting an ID should be streamlined.  That is just bureaucratic bs.

agree 100%. The process needs to be fixed, but the concept of having a gov't-issued ID is still important enough to pursue.

[Tank]

47 minutes ago, nate said:

Adam is my favorite fruit

INO strawberry shakes are my favorite fruit.