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[Make Angels Great Again]

I'm pretty sure the VAST majority of people in support of him don't believe the allegations are true.

 

But instead literally the entire state are child molester sympathizers.

[Taylor]

17 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

I'm pretty sure the VAST majority of people in support of him don't believe the allegations are true.

 

But instead literally the entire state are child molester sympathizers.

Not literally the entire state, just 48 percent of them.

Even Paul Ryan said the allegations are credible. Jeff F'ing Sessions told the guy to step down. So either 48 percent of Alabama is delusional, or they don't care.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Paul Ryan and Jeff Sessions words are as credible as toilet paper tbh.

[well_red]

15 minutes ago, Taylor said:

So either 48 percent of Alabama is delusional, or they don't care.

surprised they haven't brought up pizzagate yet

[red321]

17 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Paul Ryan and Jeff Sessions words are as credible as toilet paper tbh.

uh oh...Jeff Sessions has been voted off the island

[Make Angels Great Again]

I've never been a huge fan of the guy actually.

[Taylor]

30 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Paul Ryan and Jeff Sessions words are as credible as toilet paper tbh.

I wonder what Trump thinks?

[Taylor]

4 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

I've never been a huge fan of the guy actually.

So, you admit that President Trump made a very poor choice with his selection for attorney general.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Yeah, Sessions stinks.

[Make Angels Great Again]

I would have liked to see Trey Gowdy in the position, but from what i understand he doesn't want it.

[Taylor]

So much for Trump draining the swamp, am I right?

[Jason]

14 minutes ago, Taylor said:

So much for Trump draining the swamp, am I right?

In his defense, he never said what he'd refill it with. 

[Rico]

[nate]

How predictable.

University of WI finds that converting crops to ethanol increases the amount of carbon emissions.  http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2017/11/16/uw-study-finds-carbon-emissions-increase-fromland-converted-into-crops-ethanol-boost-carbon-emission/864416001/?hootPostID=1ef4fb3a41653f7adc6683d29a64abc2

 

[Jason]

6 minutes ago, nate said:

How predictable.

University of WI finds that converting crops to ethanol increases the amount of carbon emissions.  http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2017/11/16/uw-study-finds-carbon-emissions-increase-fromland-converted-into-crops-ethanol-boost-carbon-emission/864416001/?hootPostID=1ef4fb3a41653f7adc6683d29a64abc2

 

Equivalent to 20 million cars. Wow

[mtangelsfan]

Law of unintended consequences.

[red321]

If Iowa wasn’t  the first caucus state every 4 years we would have moved on from ethanol already. But anyone seriously runnning for president has to pander to the Iowa farmers. 

[mtangelsfan]

22 minutes ago, red321 said:

If Iowa wasn’t  the first caucus state every 4 years we would have moved on from ethanol already. But anyone seriously runnning for president has to pander to the Iowa farmers. 

Meh, they can grow other crops.  This isn't nearly as much about the farmers as it is the process of making it.  Besides, it is still the oil companies that are selling it.

[nate]

1 minute ago, mtangelsfan said:

Meh, they can grow other crops.  This isn't nearly as much about the farmers as it is the process of making it.  Besides, it is still the oil companies that are selling it.

We give ethanol farmers gigantic subsidies, it is absolutely about this.  Without the ethanol the giant corn farmer conglomerates would take gigantic losses.

[Thomas]

You can make a pretty good argument that the funding into ethanol is leaps and bounds more effective for national security than the many billions spent on the military. Yes there are cleaner energy sources and yes we should be striving for those. But in the interim if something alters the supply of petroleum having an established ethanol industry will be a quite fortunate thing. 

[nate]

50 minutes ago, Thomas said:

You can make a pretty good argument that the funding into ethanol is leaps and bounds more effective for national security than the many billions spent on the military. Yes there are cleaner energy sources and yes we should be striving for those. But in the interim if something alters the supply of petroleum having an established ethanol industry will be a quite fortunate thing. 

If that were really true then they would be doing more to support electric cars instead of fighting them every chance they get.

Ethanol production doesn't come anywhere near close enough to wean us off foreign oil.  We could have achieved the same thing by requiring cars to be 15% more fuel efficient.

[Thomas]

48 minutes ago, nate said:

If that were really true then they would be doing more to support electric cars instead of fighting them every chance they get.

Ethanol production doesn't come anywhere near close enough to wean us off foreign oil.  We could have achieved the same thing by requiring cars to be 15% more fuel efficient.

/facepalm 

You aren’t exectly a “big picture” guy.

The industry’s is being kept alive for this reason. It’s not economical to produce at high levels at current oil prices but they want to keep the industry alive in case something dramatic happens. It’s not a one for one replacement but if OPEC turned off production tomorrow, it’d be a fuckton better to have an additional fuel source and the option to ramp up production  than not. And Europe would be infinitely worse off than the US. Electric isn’t that solution today. Maybe in twenty years. But not today.

[nate]

Just now, Thomas said:

/facepalm 

You aren’t exectly a “big picture” guy.

The industry’s is being kept alive for this reason. It’s not economical to produce at high levels at current oil prices but they want to keep the industry alive in case something dramatic happens. It’s not a one for one replacement but if OPEC turned off production tomorrow, it’d be a fuckton better to have an additional fuel source and the option to ramp up production  than not. And Europe would be infinitely worse off than the US. Electric isn’t that solution today. Maybe in twenty years. But not today.

If OPEC turned off production tomorrow we would be completely out of fuel in a month.

[mtangelsfan]

4 hours ago, nate said:

We give ethanol farmers gigantic subsidies, it is absolutely about this.  Without the ethanol the giant corn farmer conglomerates would take gigantic losses.

You see farmer conglomerates, I see small farmers growing corn.  

[Thomas]

1 minute ago, nate said:

If OPEC turned off production tomorrow we would be completely out of fuel in a month.

No we wouldn’t but Europe would be when we stopped exporting.