University of Southern California Football Thread

[HaloCory22]

Correct because Jim Mora Jr never coached a game in 2011.  Neither did Jim L Mora for that matter.  If you mean 2012 then actually Jim L Mora won more Pac 12 games than Kiffin.

No, I purposely said 2011 cus its about as relevant as your Oregon jab at Sark.

[nate]

Not really but ok.

[Chimi]

Unfortunately for Orgeron, the two must win games on the schedule he lost.

[RallyMo]

Tosh in c&g

Wow

 

I pretty much called this when he bolted in both the way he left and the way Sark got him. It speaks to severe character deficiencies in terms of honor for both of them, but they're well suited for success in the business that they're in. My issue is that it's possible to be good at recruiting and coaching football without being a douchebag, and they're dealing with kids. They should never consider it to be 100% as a business, and these guys do.

 

I've had a feeling that Sark and Tosh would end up at USC because I knew that Kiffin was just a placeholder. I thought they'd have more success at UW and perhaps in one more year, but it's about right.

 

Make no mistake about it, though: they will recruit like gangbusters and kids will buy what they have to sell. They will win.

 

Nando, you can trust me. Remember when I was totally right about Sumlin?

Edited December 2, 2013 by RallyMo

[HaloCory22]

Not really but ok.

I read your post wrong. Thought you said Oregon, not Orgeron. My bad lol.

[nando714]

Tee Martin wants to stay.

[nando714]

RallyMo

You were right. Whats the longest subscription to xbox live can USC invest in

[RallyMo]

RallyMo

You were right. Whats the longest subscription to xbox live can USC invest in

 

lol

 

That's a joke straight off the Cal board.

 

Don't worry. He comes with his own lifetime subscription, and it's not like he's going to jump ship to another school at this point.

 

You guys are set.

 

He's going to pull in ridiculous recruiting classes with the rest of your guys. UCLA fans might not be nervous and they may be laughing, but they shouldn't be. He nearly had Cal on the verge of the top class in the nation. CAL.  THEN, he had the pull to pretty much blow it up while being a total traitor to the school.

 

Seriously. He's a dbag, but he's good. He's damned good.

[nate]

Seems to me like SC would want to keep good coaches first rather than recruiters first.  SC recruits itself.  SC had the best DL in the P12 but now Ed O is gone.  UW on the other hand was pretty pedestrian.

 

UW D also was not very good.  Wilcox can recruit but again he is not the best DC.

[nando714]

Bummed Coach O is gone. Sounds like it was HC or bust for him. Hope he gets a HC gig somewhere he deserves it. No one wants to be an assistant forever

[nate]

Imagine if in all of his rage, Coach O comes to UCLA to be assistant DC.  Only problem is our second best recruiter is our DL coach lol.

[nando714]

Imagine if in all of his rage, Coach O comes to UCLA to be assistant DC. Only problem is our second best recruiter is our DL coach lol.

Id probably lose all my respect for him lol

[nate]

I don't have any for him right now so I would probably gain some lol.

[nate]

Funny, the USC forums can be summarized as this:

 

"At least Mora is gone."

 

"I $*(&$@# hate the Sark hire"

 

Man, how times have changed.

[Chimi]

I see a lot of people referring to him as Sarkiffin.

 

Not sure why USC can't move on past the Pete Carroll era.  

[RallyMo]

They're only saying that because they were silly enough to believe in Kiffin and/or think that Sark is more of the same.

 

He's much better at the football and the coaching than Kiffin is.

 

USC will be fine.

 

He's such a sleazebag, though.

[nando714]

I'll give Sark a chance of course

He took over a ZERO win program that was left in shambles by Ty Willingham.

[RallyMo]

It'll be interesting to see the coaching fallout here.

 

I wouldn't be shocked to see DeRuyter head to UW from Fresno.

 

...and Tedford land at Fresno State.

 

Yuck.

[HaloCory22]

Whoa!

 

Brett McMurphy â€@McMurphyESPN4m

Ed Orgeron "outraged" didn't receive USC job & resigns. OC Clay Helton expected to coach bowl, source told @ESPN

 Retweeted by ESPNLA 710 Radio

[RallyMo]

It's not shocking, Cory.

 

He'll land a gig as a DC somewhere or quite possibly a HC position.

[HaloCory22]

It's not shocking, Cory.

 

He'll land a gig as a DC somewhere or quite possibly a HC position.

I didn't think he'd tell SC to F off before their bowl. Obviously I was wrong.

[RallyMo]

When you get passed over for a guy that's not as good as you, you get pissed.

 

What he did at USC this year was very impressive, save for the rivalry games.

[TobiasFunke]

Those two rivalry games mean more than the others Rally. And "a guy that's not as good as you?" so because Coach O won a handfull of games this season he's suddenly better than Sarkisian?.......

[RallyMo]

Those two rivalry games mean more than the others Rally. And "a guy that's not as good as you?" so because Coach O won a handfull of games this season he's suddenly better than Sarkisian?.......

 

No, but I never said that.

 

I personally think he might very well be a better coach than Sark and I feel that he may believe that he's a better coach than Sark. Also, I'm not sure about 

 

Thus, if HE felt this way about it, it makes sense for him to feel slighted.

 

Also, Notre Dame and UCLA are both doing pretty well currently while USC started off their season as a festering pile of feces with little of the depth that is usually present. That should be considered when thinking about the rivalry games. They came close to defeating ND. If they had, they would have finished 7-1 on his watch.

 

He feels slighted. He probably feels he was the better choice for the job.

 

I don't quite understand what's so nutty about that.

[nate]

This was my favorite paragraph I read today.

 

 

It’s a bit of a controversial hire, too, already. Two days after USC lost its final regular season game to UCLA, it hired Sarkisian. The story goes that Sarkisian was interviewed yesterday, so it wasn’t as if this was the plan for a while. It’s well known that USC seriously pursued Sumlin, Petersen (who reports have USC AD Pat Haden going to see earlier Sunday), Jon Gruden, Jack Del Rio and Vanderbilt’s James Franklin, but the word is that none of them were serious about taking the job. USC will probably say that it opted for its “first choice” in Sarkisian, and knew the guy it wanted, but it’s highly unlikely that’s anything more than spin. AFter getting turned down by a number of candidates, Haden looks like he opted for a quick hire rather than risking the bad publicity of a protracted process. Some already in the USC community are asking why Sarkisian is any different than Lane Kiffin. We’ve heard, however, that the school’s familiarity with Sarkisian, having been an assistant under Pete Carroll, and support from a good number of boosters and donors, was a key factor.