Healthy 24-Year-Old Granted Right to Die in Belgium

[gotbeer]

Healthy 24-Year-Old Granted Right to Die in Belgium

 

[arch stanton]

If Belgium had a 2nd amendment they wouldn't need a right to die law. Just a thought.

[juansavage1]

This is the logical slippery slope. As Europe runs out of money for its aging population, it will be the duty to die. 

[juansavage1]

If Belgium had a 2nd amendment they wouldn't need a right to die law. Just a thought.

I'm sure he could overdose or cut himself or something. 

[Adam]

She. Read the article. 

 

This is terribly sad. 

[TobiasFunke]

Juan educates himself by not reading the articles

[mancini79]

Ummm, she is not healthy.

[InsideThePark]

Horribly tragic.

Right to die would never be amended here. I suspect that I'm in the extreme minority when I say that I would support it.

[Schildog]

Ummm, she is not healthy.

 

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[TobiasFunke]

Horribly tragic.

Right to die would never be amended here. I suspect that I'm in the extreme minority when I say that I would support it.

I absolutely support it.

[Jason]

I wonder what Belgium's mental health services are like? Sounds like they suck

[Hollyw00d]

Healthy physically, maybe.

[gotbeer]

I wonder what Belgium's mental health services are like? Sounds like they suck

 

and yet, probably better than ours.  

[Jason]

and yet, probably better than ours.

We have mental health services? Where at?

[juansavage1]

Let me explain the fissure here.

It has to do with first assumptions.

If God, then life has intrinsic worth. Therefore, intentionally killing someone or oneself is a bad thing for both and should be prevented.People should persevere in sadness.

If no God, then life has no intrinsic worth and there are no consequences to the person dying. Why live if you're sad? Why should society prevent it. The world would be a happier place if all sad people were dead.

[InsideThePark]

There's a difference between the general use of the word sad to describe an unhappy person and dealing with lifelong severe depression. What good is life if it's a life of suffering?

Nonbelievers would take issue with your use of the term "no intrinsic worth" in regards to all life.

[Hollyw00d]

I think a lot people would take issue with a lot of things Juan believes

[juansavage1]

Thanks for the calm reply. I appreciate that people would take issue.

The key word is "intrinsic." Money or gold or oxygen just has worth because people think so or to the extent that we need it. Without humans, gold or oxygen is worthless. If every human being died tomorrow, it wouldn't matter really.

We're all going to stop existing so really the world will end for all of us.

But, you're being 100% logical from your starting point. Why continue if your life is continually sad or depressed? Why continue if you just don't feel like it, however? Who is anybody to make the determination of how long to live?

Edited July 1, 2015 by Juan Savage

[InsideThePark]

Well that's up to the individual I suppose. But if we're legislating it, I think we all agree that euthanasia shouldn't be passed out like candy. If you're having a bad week or if your lover dumped you, deal with it on your own terms.

Each case is unique and should be treated as such. Painting the issue in black and white by saying that you should either be all for it or against it is to oversimplify. We saw similar type of arguments in the gay marriage thread in regards to people marrying animals. Like most things in government, there should be limits.

Edited July 1, 2015 by InsideThePark

[Schildog]

i really hope emphysema isn't passed out like candy.

[InsideThePark]

i really hope emphysema isn't passed out like candy.

That was quite the epic fail.

[Blarg]

Still wondering if Juan clicked on the link and read the article.

[Adam]

I'm good with giving people the right to end their life but I struggle with giving others the right to kill.

[TobiasFunke]

I'm good with giving people the right to end their life but I struggle with giving others the right to kill.

In regards to soldiers?

[juansavage1]

Isn't any limiting principle just opinion? If the life principle is gone, it's just what what makes you feel comfortable.

Please don't look at my argument as an attack. I often find atheists don't ponder the consequences of their assumption and I try to help them.

Edited July 1, 2015 by Juan Savage