18 Kids, 1 Child Molester, and Counting.

[the dude abides]

Roman Polanski probably hasn't raped anybody in 37 years.

Would the pro-Duggar crowd welcome him back to the states? He apologized for it, and it seems like he feels terrible about it.

[nate]

I don't find this funny at all.  What I do find interesting is that many of you keep ignoring the fact that it seems like whatever was done for him worked.  Or maybe what he did wasn't in the vein of what many of you think.

 

How do you know it worked?

[Jason]

im not real familiar with the Duggar's show (other than having a ton of kids) or this issue for that matter. Was this boy dealt with by the courts when it occurred? If so, why is it an issue now?

[Jason]

Roman Polanski probably hasn't raped anybody in 37 years.

Would the pro-Duggar crowd welcome him back to the states? He apologized for it, and it seems like he feels terrible about it.

If he was properly held accountable.

[the dude abides]

He was arrested in Switzerland. He did his time.

It was 37 years ago.

[Jason]

He was arrested in Switzerland. He did his time.

It was 37 years ago.

Paid his debt then

[the dude abides]

How do you know it worked?

Because.....

Christian

[BaseballMom]

I know, and I agree if he has done it as an adult, or repeated as an adult he should be in jail because it will never change.  I'm sorry I'm not willing to throw a 15 year old under the bus without having all of the facts. 

 

Clearly those who are more "open minded" feel comfortable doing so.

 

I wonder if you would feel differently if it was your child who was molested by a 15 year old.  

 

Also, according to the report that has now been destroyed, it happened in 2002 and again in 2003.  

[BaseballMom]

I don't find this funny at all.  What I do find interesting is that many of you keep ignoring the fact that it seems like whatever was done for him worked.  Or maybe what he did wasn't in the vein of what many of you think.

 

Or they got better at covering it up.  Boys will be boys amirite?

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

im not real familiar with the Duggar's show (other than having a ton of kids) or this issue for that matter. Was this boy dealt with by the courts when it occurred? If so, why is it an issue now?

 

No it was never dealt with by the courts because a friend and/or fellow church member was the officer who took the report.  That report was never filed, the statute of limitations has passed and that individual who didn't file the report is now in prison on unrelated child porn charges.  The Duggar son went on to work for an organization that rails against homosexuality being anti-gay marriage, against gay scout leaders claiming (said publicly by the son) that gays are more likely to molest young children and the list goes on.  The fact that it was swept under the rug, that the son is the definition of a hypocrite and that the family holds themselves out to be bastions of morality is what rubs many people the wrong way. 

[Jason]

It's too bad he wasn't held accountable and that's an issue. As far as people saying they should not be in the positions they're in is a little off. Mistakes were made but that doesn't mean you fold everything up and quit life. I'm sure the family did not or does not condone such behavior. I teach my daughter not to do stuff that I did as a kid. I don't feel like a hypocrite though. As far as covering up for their child, I'm not so sure I would just let the system lock up my child and throw away the key. Not sure how I would handle it. I work in the juvenile justice system and it isn't always the best option in dealing with this or other delinquent behavior. Honestly I, and probably most here, don't have all the facts about what happened in this case.

[arch stanton]

Has there been any mention of what was done for the victims?

[InsideThePark]

I teach my daughter not to do stuff that I did as a kid. I don't feel like a hypocrite though.

Come on, that is a terrible comparison.

[the dude abides]

Mistakes were made but that doesn't mean you fold everything up and quit life.

Molestation is not a mistake. It's a felony.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

I don't believe anyone aside from the family and possibly the church (family brought it to their attention, son was interviewed) have all the facts since it was never properly reported to and investigated by the authorities. What has been reported is that it happened multiple times to girls as young as I believe 5 who lived in the house spannning from at least March 2002-March 2003.

There's no mention that I've seen discussed of what happened to the victims. I think that's one of the biggest problems some people have with all of this especially given how women are viewed and treated in this particular religious sect.

[Jason]

Molestation is not a mistake. It's a felony.

Yes it is but some cases may be sexual battery than can be a misdemeanor. Either way it was wrong and he should have been held accountable due to the age of the victims. I won't disagree with that Edited May 29, 2015 by Angels N Skins

[the dude abides]

Yes it is but some cases may be sexual battery than can be a misdemeanor. Either way it was wrong and he should have been held accountable due to the age of the victims. I won't disagree with that

Well, in this case, he fondled the breasts and vaginas of five little girls, the youngest of which was at most 9 years old (though likely younger, unfortunately). So, you can argue it's a "misdemeanor" or "mistake" all you'd like, it doesn't make it so.

[InsideThePark]

The word mistake by itself is awesome. It can be applied to some of the most disgusting crimes to minimize the events that took place.

[Jason]

The word mistake by itself is awesome. It can be applied to some of the most disgusting crimes to minimize the events that took place.

Except I wasn't minimizing it. That wasn't my point

[Mark68]

The word mistake by itself is awesome. It can be applied to some of the most disgusting crimes to minimize the events that took place.

So the Nazis committed some 14 million mistakes, apparently.

[InsideThePark]

Except I wasn't minimizing it. That wasn't my point

Comparing the so-called hypocrisy of parenting to the sis diddling, former executive of a designated hate group, which preaches all kinds of anti-gay nonsense, kinda comes across as minimizing to me. When I think of good Christians, those aren't the type of people that come to mind.

[mtangelsfan]

So the Nazis committed some 14 million mistakes, apparently.

 

awesome, the duggars = the holocaust.

 

brilliant.  That is Fox News quality hyperbole man.

 

Well done

[mtangelsfan]

Comparing the so-called hypocrisy of parenting to the sis diddling, former executive of a designated hate group, which preaches all kinds of anti-gay nonsense, kinda comes across as minimizing to me. When I think of good Christians, those aren't the type of people that come to mind.

 

Here is my issue with this entire story.   First, the law is supposed to protect minors and their records.  This has not been done.  Second, any "details" coming out now are parsed and parceled by the folks who started this story, folks with an obvious agenda.  Third, we simply don't know what kind of things have been done for him nor do we know one way or the other if this kind of behavior has continued.

 

The biggest problem with pedophiles is that they do not stop.  There is something inherently off in their chemistry that drives them to continue until stopped by the authorities or by death

 

Fourth, this story would not even be out there like this (front page on yahoo and msn for over a week) if this was some random reality star.  The reason this is news is because of who the Duggars are and what they have stood for.  To claim otherwise is being completely obtuse.  It is completely political.

 

Lastly, the idea that "a 15 year old knows right from wrong" as the reason for this is questionable at best.  A two year old knows right from wrong.  The issue is whether at 2, 8, 10, 15 or even 17 do kids totally understand the consequences of their actions.  This is why we have a juvenile system in place. 

 

Now, the issues I have from the other side.  The cover up is bad, stupid and wrong.  This should have been dealt with immediately.  I have no problem going after the dad legally for this and the law enforcement folks who helped him along the way.  I don't believe that in the long run this helped anyone at all.  I would think that the FRC would vet their people better than they clearly do.  Any backlash they get is well deserved.

[Glen]

Here is my issue with this entire story.   First, the law is supposed to protect minors and their records.  This has not been done.  Second, any "details" coming out now are parsed and parceled by the folks who started this story, folks with an obvious agenda.  Third, we simply don't know what kind of things have been done for him nor do we know one way or the other if this kind of behavior has continued.

 

The biggest problem with pedophiles is that they do not stop.  There is something inherently off in their chemistry that drives them to continue until stopped by the authorities or by death

 

Fourth, this story would not even be out there like this (front page on yahoo and msn for over a week) if this was some random reality star.  The reason this is news is because of who the Duggars are and what they have stood for.  To claim otherwise is being completely obtuse.  It is completely political.

 

Lastly, the idea that "a 15 year old knows right from wrong" as the reason for this is questionable at best.  A two year old knows right from wrong.  The issue is whether at 2, 8, 10, 15 or even 17 do kids totally understand the consequences of their actions.  This is why we have a juvenile system in place. 

 

Now, the issues I have from the other side.  The cover up is bad, stupid and wrong.  This should have been dealt with immediately.  I have no problem going after the dad legally for this and the law enforcement folks who helped him along the way.  I don't believe that in the long run this helped anyone at all.  I would think that the FRC would vet their people better than they clearly do.  Any backlash they get is well deserved.

 

 

Random reality show stars show up in the news all the time for the stupid shit they do.  I agree this is a bit more than usual, but it's in large part because of the hypocrisy of those involved, and yes, religion does play a part in that.  Perhaps if they hadn't been so involved with a group that loudly preached against others doing the same thing their kid did, it wouldn't be quite as big a story.  

 

As for the 15-year-old thing: please.  Yeah, I was still developing my beliefs of what was right and wrong at 15 but I'm guessing if we went back in time and asked teenage me if it was in any way OK to molest somebody both younger than me and related to me, you wouldn't even have had to get past the "molest" part before I said it wasn't.  

[mtangelsfan]

Random reality show stars show up in the news all the time for the stupid shit they do.  I agree this is a bit more than usual, but it's in large part because of the hypocrisy of those involved, and yes, religion does play a part in that.  Perhaps if they hadn't been so involved with a group that loudly preached against others doing the same thing their kid did, it wouldn't be quite as big a story.  

 

As for the 15-year-old thing: please.  Yeah, I was still developing my beliefs of what was right and wrong at 15 but I'm guessing if we went back in time and asked teenage me if it was in any way OK to molest somebody both younger than me and related to me, you wouldn't even have had to get past the "molest" part before I said it wasn't.  

 

So then you must believe that all 15 year olds should be considered adults when it comes to crimes.  Fair enough.