Angels Trade Josh Hamilton to Texas Rangers (Official)

[Mile High Dreams]

If this deal falls apart...this thread needs to be nominated for the HOF right next to the Doc Holiday to the Angels thread.

[stevestevens]

Piodeportes just reported that hamilton said he will head to AZ for extended spring training and is not getting divorced. He is staying an angel and the 30hr 100rbi predictions are back on!

[TroutCron]

Maybe Texas finally figured out that the Angels have no leverage. The only other option is to release him where he will be free to sign with Texas and only cost them the league minimum for the remainder of the contract.

If Arte can get Texas to cough up 15 mil. That would be incredible.

Edited April 25, 2015 by TroutCron

[fan_since79]

Nightmare scenario: Deal falls through and Hamilton comes back to the team. Scioscia bats him cleanup and he flails away all summer long at breaking pitches.

 

Angels finish in 4rd place.

[mp170.6]

Nightmare scenario: Deal falls through and Hamilton comes back to the team. Scioscia bats him cleanup and he flails away all summer long at breaking pitches.

 

Angels finish in 4rd place.

 

You mean 6th place ... in the AL West.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Or is it better to keep that player at the risk of being embarrassed.  I'd say it's more embarrassing to keep someone on the team who does drugs, shows no -- and I mean ZERO -- offensive performance, and then ultimately defies the team's request to train in a known extended spring training league.  All while collecting tens of millions of dollars.

 

To me this defines Hamilton's dedication to the team - which is zero. As much as the Angels are paying Hamilton, they are entitled to have some say in the rehabilitation process. His defiance of any requests from the team tells me that he doesn't give a damn about being here, which is pretty arrogant given how bad he has been and how much he is being paid.

[Mile High Dreams]

I miss English cop

[James]

Hamilton seems to have the belief of entitlement that is, unfortunately, prevalent in American society these days.

[Mile High Dreams]

My questions here....and yes I know its not my money...but why would the Union allow Josh to take a paycut to go back to Texas as is beying reported by Rosenthal?

[Lou]

Nightmare scenario: Deal falls through and Hamilton comes back to the team. Scioscia bats him cleanup and he flails away all summer long at breaking pitches.

 

Angels finish in 4rd place.

we won't finish lower than 3th place

[bloodbrother]

Bill Shaikin ‏@BillShaikin

Union will let Hamilton leave some $ on table because he benefits by playing in state with no income tax. @Ken_Rosenthal, @BNightengale 1st.

[Inside Pitch]

Don't you want ownership that actually learns from their mistakes to avoid making new ones? 

 

This is a team that for years has been releasing players and eating $10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and now 68 million at a time.  I think it's a foregone conclusion that Pujols' tenure will also end prematurely with even more money flushed away. 

 

A brand new stadium could have been built with all the money wasted.  You call that success? 

 

 

I guess I could argue the last two offseasons are an indication he's possibly learned from his mistakes.   You want to wallow in the bad -- go for it.  I stand by my comments.  He's goofed and he's paid for it.  I don't question his desire to win, I've always questioned his willingness to let his baseball people run the show.  He's made mistakes, he's also seen the team's value, revenue, and profile, skyrocket... being successful doesn't mean being perfect.  

 

As a whole the good has vastly outweighed the bad, if you're expecting perfection then it's likely you see it differently.

Edited April 25, 2015 by Inside Pitch

[AngelsSurfer]

Bill Shaikin ‏@BillShaikin

Union will let Hamilton leave some $ on table because he benefits by playing in state with no income tax. @Ken_Rosenthal, @BNightengale 1st.

you know, normally I am pro-union but the way the MLBPA has been standing up for Hamilton despite everything turns my stomach. If he refused to show up for AZ training the Angels should have been able to void his contract or discipline him, but no...and here's the union, making sure Hamilton gets every cent despite doing absolutely nothing to earn it. They should be insisting that Hamilton meets standards of behavior and they're not.

Edited April 25, 2015 by AngelsSurfer

[jsnpritchett]

Bill Shaikin ‏@BillShaikin

Union will let Hamilton leave some $ on table because he benefits by playing in state with no income tax. @Ken_Rosenthal, @BNightengale 1st.

 

What am I missing here?  If the Angels pay $68M and the Rangers pay $15M, he's getting all that he's owed.  Unless the implication is that maybe the total amount paid to him won't actually be $83M?

[DowningRules]

Bill Shaikin ‏@BillShaikin

Union will let Hamilton leave some $ on table because he benefits by playing in state with no income tax. @Ken_Rosenthal, @BNightengale 1st.

 

Way to go Player's Union!  Money first, player second, team and sport of baseball tied for last.  

[greginpsca]

So I guess we aren't selling Hamilton high. Or are we...?

Him getting high is how we got into this situation.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

My questions here....and yes I know its not my money...but why would the Union allow Josh to take a paycut to go back to Texas as is beying reported by Rosenthal?

 

He isn't taking a pay cut, as I understand it. The Angels are paying all but $15M of his remaining salary, the portion that is being picked up by Texas.

Edited April 25, 2015 by Vegas Halo Fan

[Bruce Nye]

ESPN reporting they speculate that the Angels eat $68 million.  They will pay $15 million.

[gotbeer]

Flashback.

 

[nando714]

http://youtu.be/EaFD7wT4X64

- Josh Hamilton.

[bloodbrother]

The moment we've all been waiting for......CJ Wilson's thoughts
 

 

 

"If he's back on a field, it's good for him," said Hamilton's longtime teammate, C.J. Wilson, who didn't know any details.

 

"No matter what the situation is, I think Josh is going to pick up a 35-inch bat and go swing. That's what he's good at, and I think that's what he needs to be doing right now."

 

 

[Troll Daddy]

This is great news for Hamilton ... unfortunately is bad news for the Angels no matter how you look at it. Texas was really the only team in play for Hamilton and the Angels.

[Guest]

Too bad the Angels couldn't trade CJ and his shitty comments as well.

[Troll Daddy]

Hopefully this is the last of Hamilton threads!

[the dude abides]

The moment we've all been waiting for......CJ Wilson's thoughts

Good ol' Corn Jole. Always with a sound bite.