ISIS delenda est

[the dude abides]

http://m.jpost.com/Middle-East/ISIS-Threat/ISIS-beheads-15-year-old-Iraqi-boy-for-listening-to-pop-music-445280#article=10374Q0RBN0Q3QzU4NjY0MDdEOTQ1NjU1QkFFQ0FERTFDRTg=

Child beheaders of peace.

Allah is pleased.

Edited February 18, 2016 by the dude abides

[ten ocho recon scout]

There will be no peace in the ME, ever.

the closest to it would be a themed porno called piece in the middle east.

[ten ocho recon scout]

A while back i read a story of a chick whos the first mainstream porn actress whos muslim. Ill try to find the link, because its gold to read word for word. Anyway, the jist of the story was that she was getting gangbanged and one of the dudes in the melee happened to be a filthy kafir jew. So she released a statement appologizing to her family...along rhe lins (not making it up) "while engaged in a 5 way, i had sex with a guy from lebanon. I noticed he had a funny accent, but didnt know he was a jew. I appologize for embarrassing my family". Lost it when i read that

[fan_since79]

Dumbest Girl Ever:

 

Nivarlain said she had stopped attending school around age 14 in mid-2014 and met her boyfriend about the same time.

"First we (were) good together, but then he started to look at ISIS videos and started to speak about them and stuff like that," she told K24.

"And I don't know anything about Islam or ISIS or something, so I didn't know what he meant. Then he said he want(ed) to go to ISIS, and I said OK, no problem."

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/24/middleeast/swedish-teen-freed-from-isis/

[Tank]

I don't think it's a coincidence that there is a growing number of American young people fascinated by ISIS at the same time that Bernies popularity is so large with roughly the same age group.

What has caused this great disconnect, and how do we address it?

[gotbeer]

ISIS is using a metal tool called 'the Biter' to clip the flesh of women who disobey its dress code

[Blarg]

Surprising that an entire culture can grow up hating women so much and deny being gay.

[Tank]

ISIS is using a metal tool called 'the Biter' to clip the flesh of women who disobey its dress code

 

"Isis insists that women be fully veiled; wear loose or baggy trousers, socks, and gloves; and be accompanied by a male relative whenever they step outside their homes."

 

just how horny are muslim men? gloves? really?

[ten ocho recon scout]

"Isis insists that women be fully veiled; wear loose or baggy trousers, socks, and gloves; and be accompanied by a male relative whenever they step outside their homes."

just how horny are muslim men? gloves? really?

IFIST?

[ten ocho recon scout]

Well we could stop clubbing brown people like they're baby seals. I imagine if I lived in Iraq and watched the US **** up my country worse than it already was I'd get a little radical. I mean, I've already lost everything right?

Some people, particularly educated people, have a conscience. The fact is we ****ed that area up so bad and now our politicians use terms like "making the sand glow" after a civil war breaks out. Who's the bad guy here? Saddam?!

totally agree we had a huge hand in creating that mess.

That said, theres a lot left about about how it ended up like this. The first thing to keep in mind is that very early on in the insurgency, within about two months, the anti-coalition forces began targetting the infrascruture. Here in the US youd hear about our people getting hit with IEDs daily. Fsr more than that (but not on the radar here at home) was the insurgency targetting the power grids, water treatment plants, etc. Later they increased it to bridges, road junctions, etc. The majority of what we were doing in iraq after the invasion was trying to restore order (and hand it over to the iraqi govt) and rebuild the infrascructure. The insurgency is what destroyed it all after 2003. And keep in mind that a huge number of the insurgents werent iraqis. They were saudis, jords, chechens, filipinos, etc etc. And thats just the sunnis. The iranians sent over scores more to bolster the already majority shia in the country.

Looking at the broader picture, the same thing is going on throughout the region. Its easy to say had we remained out of it this wouldnt have happened. Im not so sure thats the case. The arab spring occured throughout the region, including countries we have very little influence in (most of all syria). Looking at the region as a whole, just about every secretarian govt has been overthrown in the last decade by young radicals, a lot like afghanistan in 79, iran, etc. The saudis know theyre high on the to do list for these groups.

This movement started decades ago, but the overwhelming number of americans arent aware of it. Basically, look at egypt in the 50s (sayyid qutb), the muslim brotherhood (egypt), etc. Then look at the mosque hostage takeover during the hadj in saudi in the late 70s. Instead of trying to crush the movement, the saudi govt tried to appease it and encourage the jihadis (in order to avoid becoming a tsrget). That led to the modern rise of the salafists and started the taliban movement in Pakistan and later afghanistan.

In a nutshell, the muslim world saw itself falling behind in prosperity with the rest of the world. After the several failed attempts to erase israel, it was even more of a kick in the ass. Then fiery radicals began telling the people (and a large majority bought into it) that the muslim world was being punished for not being muslim enough. And only a return to the "opd testament" days would appease god and bring prosperity back to them.

[mtangelsfan]

Well we could stop clubbing brown people like they're baby seals. I imagine if I lived in Iraq and watched the US **** up my country worse than it already was I'd get a little radical. I mean, I've already lost everything right?

 

Some people, particularly educated people, have a conscience. The fact is we ****ed that area up so bad and now our politicians use terms like "making the sand glow" after a civil war breaks out. Who's the bad guy here? Saddam?!

 

We can take responsibility for a lot of things but not this one.  This is cultural.

 

It still boils down to making choices.

[Amazing Larry]

totally agree we had a huge hand in creating that mess.

That said, theres a lot left about about how it ended up like this. The first thing to keep in mind is that very early on in the insurgency, within about two months, the anti-coalition forces began targetting the infrascruture. Here in the US youd hear about our people getting hit with IEDs daily. Fsr more than that (but not on the radar here at home) was the insurgency targetting the power grids, water treatment plants, etc. Later they increased it to bridges, road junctions, etc. The majority of what we were doing in iraq after the invasion was trying to restore order (and hand it over to the iraqi govt) and rebuild the infrascructure. The insurgency is what destroyed it all after 2003. And keep in mind that a huge number of the insurgents werent iraqis. They were saudis, jords, chechens, filipinos, etc etc. And thats just the sunnis. The iranians sent over scores more to bolster the already majority shia in the country.

Looking at the broader picture, the same thing is going on throughout the region. Its easy to say had we remained out of it this wouldnt have happened. Im not so sure thats the case. The arab spring occured throughout the region, including countries we have very little influence in (most of all syria). Looking at the region as a whole, just about every secretarian govt has been overthrown in the last decade by young radicals, a lot like afghanistan in 79, iran, etc. The saudis know theyre high on the to do list for these groups.

This movement started decades ago, but the overwhelming number of americans arent aware of it. Basically, look at egypt in the 50s (sayyid qutb), the muslim brotherhood (egypt), etc. Then look at the mosque hostage takeover during the hadj in saudi in the late 70s. Instead of trying to crush the movement, the saudi govt tried to appease it and encourage the jihadis (in order to avoid becoming a tsrget). That led to the modern rise of the salafists and started the taliban movement in Pakistan and later afghanistan.

In a nutshell, the muslim world saw itself falling behind in prosperity with the rest of the world. After the several failed attempts to erase israel, it was even more of a kick in the ass. Then fiery radicals began telling the people (and a large majority bought into it) that the muslim world was being punished for not being muslim enough. And only a return to the "opd testament" days would appease god and bring prosperity back to them.

The moral of the story is it always has been and always will be a terrible place. We shouldn't be there.

**** 'em.

[ten ocho recon scout]

The moral of the story is it always has been and always will be a terrible place. We shouldn't be there.

**** 'em.

sadly this is correct. Thats not at all meant to say "every arab is a terrorist!" Not at all. But the culture of the region is insanity. The israelis are by far the most moderate, but they too are not angels. (Nobody is). The rest of the region? Between covering women, public floggings, beheadings, archaic laws in terms of womens rights, current day slaves, etc etc...its like a different planet.

[AngelsLongBall]

Delta Force to being targeting ISIS in Iraq. 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/29/politics/pentagon-army-target-isis-iraq/index.html

 

Have been collecting intel in the area for the past 6 weeks, now have targets identified.  "Target, capture or kill"

[Tank]

still not sure why we need to announce things like this to the public.

[Amazing Larry]

No boots on the ground though.

[AngelsLongBall]

No boots on the ground though.

Since Delta doesn't officially exist, were there ever any boots in the first place?

[Amazing Larry]

Since Delta doesn't officially exist, were there ever any boots in the first place?

 

[Kevin]

still not sure why we need to announce things like this to the public.

I know a guy that can draw troop positions in the sand on live TV if the military is interested.

[ten ocho recon scout]

No boots on the ground though.

its Delta....they float....

Seriously, the biggest let down ive had in life was being around those guys and finding out they werent chuck norrisy. No cool dirtbikes, no karate, etc.

(Glad theyre getting their public due after the seals went hollywood though...)

[fan_since79]

150 Somali fighters were killed by a drone as they stood in formation at their terrorist camp graduation.

 

Scholarships revoked with extreme prejudice.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Whats 72 virgins times 150?

This is one of those times things shouldnt be told to the media i think. And im suprised to read we still have people in somalia? I knew we were in djibouti, but didnt think we had any there

[UndertheHalo]

if we're talking about Iraq exclusively.  Our greatest sin (other then invading in the first place) was ensuring the disenfranchisement of the Sunnis.  Not once, but a second time after they threw in with us during the surge.  Even at the highest levels of policy making we have no ****ing clue what we are doing over there.  

 

Its very convenient to condemn an entire region culturally when its in the midst of absolute chaos.  The conditions (which the west has had a massive hand in creating over the last 150 years) have resulted in the very worst coming out of people (which is typical when you have terrible unrest in a place).  Everyone is dirty in this, there are no good guys.  That includes us.

Edited March 7, 2016 by UndertheHalo

[ten ocho recon scout]

Yeah, agreed. The problem with rhe sunnis there though is that they are outnumbered, and we instilled "democracy". So as long as there were going to be free elections, the shia were gonna win that one. I wonder if breaking up the national boundaries would change anything? Shia-land over here, sunni-land over here. They definitely dont mix well, and its only getting worse and worse

[Amazing Larry]

Just walk away and let them blow themselves up. So sad, too bad.