Thoroughbred Racing

[Adam]

My son gave me a 30-1 shot before we left tonight. Winning 2017 so far

[gotbeer]

11 hours ago, Adam said:

My son gave me a 30-1 shot before we left tonight. Winning 2017 so far

So your son is a better handicapper than I am.  Probably you too. 

Oh, and taking your kid to Los Al.  That's like bottom of the barrel.

[Adam]

There were 36 people there

[gotbeer]

California Veterinarian’s List: Steroid Reporting By The Numbers

 

Really interesting read.  In the case of Masochistic, it's an unfortunate positive, but it looks like Ellils was at least within the rules.  Now, if it wasn't reported, it's a whole different situation.  But at least it was reported. 

It would be an interesting angle to go off a layoff, but had a roid injection.  Usually layoffs are throw out horses for me.

[gotbeer]

 

They are trying too hard. 

Edited January 7, 2017 by gotbeer

[gotbeer]

One of my favorite horses.  I've always wondered what happened to him.

New Days for Caracortado

And didn't realize this was his last race.  The racecall was priceless.

 

[Adam]

I don't remember that horse but that was quite a run. Races like that are why I'm emotionally drawn to betting closers. 

[Homebrewer]

I remember her well...always happy to see a good racehorse be moved on to other pursuits and purposes in retirement.

[gotbeer]

Gun Runner’s Connections ‘Unwilling’ To Complete Testing Requirements For Pegasus Start

Dang. 

[gotbeer]

Commentary: Graceless Finish To A Night Of Champions

 

 

[Homebrewer]

Did some reading up on EHV-1 (equine herpes virus)...that's some serious shit.

Equine Herpes Virus (EHV-1) infection in horses can cause respiratory disease, abortion in mares, neonatal foal death and neurological disease. The neurological form of the disease is known as Equine Herpes Myeloencephalopathy (EHM) and may be caused by damage to blood vessels of the brain and spinal cord associated with EHV-1 infection. EHM is most often due to the neuropathogenic strain of EHV-1, but may occasionally be caused by the non-neuropathogenic strain of the virus.

https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/ahfss/animal_health/equine_herpes_virus.html

[Adam]

Gulfstream is my least favorite "premier" race track. It is not a fair surface and the configuration pretty much eliminates outside horses in two turn races.

Draw for Pegasus is at 2pm PDT. You can pretty much toss anyone outside of the 8 hole from win contention. 

[Homebrewer]

Sheesh...Perry Martin. What a windbag.

[Homebrewer]

3 minutes ago, Adam said:

Gulfstream is my least favorite "premier" race track. It is not a fair surface and the configuration pretty much eliminates outside horses in two turn races.

Draw for Pegasus is at 2pm PDT. You can pretty much toss anyone outside of the 8 hole from win contention. 

Let's hope Chrome and Arrogate draw next to each other in somewhere around the middle...like 3-4.

[Adam]

[Adam]

The pick 4 should be pretty nice

12 horse 5F Turf

12 horses 12F Turf

12 horses 12F Turf

Pegasus

[Homebrewer]

Well....shit. Chrome is going to need to use a lot of early energy to get into position for the turn.

1. Arrogate (Mike Smith), 7-5

2. Prayer for Relief (Florent Geroux), 50-1

3. Neolithic (John Velazquez), 30-1

4. Noble Bird (Julien Leparoux), 25-1

5. War Story (Antonio Gallardo), 50-1

6. War Envoy (Luis Saez), 50-1

7. Shaman Ghost (Jose Oritz), 20-1

8. Semper Fortis (Tyler Gaffalione), 50-1

9. Keen Ice (Javier Castellano), 12-1

10. Breaking Lucky (Luis Contreras), 25-1

11. Eragon (Edgar Prado), 50-1

12. California Chrome (Victor Espinoza), 6-5

 

Chrome will need to use his speed for a quick break in the short dash to the first turn to avoid getting parked. Odds are stacked against horses starting from the outside in a large field.

Notably, Big Brown won the 2008 Florida Derby from the 12 post at Gulfstream, then went on to win the Kentucky Derby from the No. 20 post, only the second horse in 52 years to win it from outside the 16th starting spot.

Arrogate, who won the Eclipse Award as 2016’s outstanding 3-year-old, will have a shorter route to the turn but will have to guard against being cut off by others with early speed.

“If the horse is good enough, he’s going to perform,” Sherman said, adding about California Chrome, “He’s good enough, believe me when I tell you, he’s a once-of-a-lifetime horse. He’s the real McCoy.”

[Adam]

Pegasus Card.pdf

[Homebrewer]

22 minutes ago, Adam said:

Pegasus Card.pdf

Thanks Adam..

[Homebrewer]

Spring is in the air...(McCracken is down from 225-1 to 10-1)

2017 Kentucky Derby Future Wager Pool 2 Friday, Jan. 27-Sunday, Jan. 29
#	Wagering Interest	Sire	Trainer	Morning Line Odds
1	American Anthem*	Bodemeister	Bob Baffert	15-1
2	Battalion Runner*	Unbridled’s Song	Todd Pletcher	20-1
3	Classic Empire	Pioneerof the Nile	Mark Casse	5-1
4	El Areeb*	Exchange Rate	Cathal Lynch	50-1
5	Fact Finding	The Factor	Todd Pletcher	30-1
6	Faja*	Bodemeister	Todd Pletcher	50-1
7	Gormley	Malibu Moon	John Shirreffs	15-1
8	Guest Suite* (g)	Quality Road	Neil Howard	50-1
9	Gunnevera	Dialed In	Antonio Sano	50-1
10	Irish War Cry	Curlin	Graham Motion	30-1
11	Lookin At Lee	Lookin At Lucky	Steve Asmussen	30-1
12	Mastery	Candy Ride (ARG)	Bob Baffert	6-1
13	McCraken	Ghostzapper	Ian Wilkes	10-1
14	Mo Town	Uncle Mo	Anthony Dutrow	20-1
15	Mont Saint Legame (JPN)*	Came Home	Koji Maki	50-1
16	No Dozing	Union Rags	Arnaud Delacour	50-1
17	Petrov*	Flatter	Ron Moquett	50-1
18	Practical Joke	Into Mischief	Chad Brown	20-1
19	Sonic Mule*	Distorted Humor	Todd Pletcher	50-1
20	State of Honor*	To Honor and Serve	Mark Casse	50-1
21	Uncontested	Tiz Wonderful	Wayne Catalano	20-1
22	Untrapped*	Trappe Shot	Steve Asmussen	50-1
23	Wild Shot	Trappe Shot	Rusty Arnold	50-1
24	Mutuel Field (All Others)			8/5
Morning Line Odds by Mike Battaglia * - new wagering interest in KDFW Pool 2 (g) - gelding

[gotbeer]

23 hours ago, Adam said:

Pegasus Card.pdf

 

Thanks Adam.  Still haven't looked over the form, but I am thouroughly confused now about the Pegasus.  Seriously, could it be that both Chrome and Arrogate do not finish in the top 2? 

[gotbeer]

18 hours ago, Homebrewer said:

Spring is in the air...(McCracken is down from 225-1 to 10-1)

2017 Kentucky Derby Future Wager Pool 2 Friday, Jan. 27-Sunday, Jan. 29
#	Wagering Interest	Sire	Trainer	Morning Line Odds
1	American Anthem*	Bodemeister	Bob Baffert	15-1
2	Battalion Runner*	Unbridled’s Song	Todd Pletcher	20-1
3	Classic Empire	Pioneerof the Nile	Mark Casse	5-1
4	El Areeb*	Exchange Rate	Cathal Lynch	50-1
5	Fact Finding	The Factor	Todd Pletcher	30-1
6	Faja*	Bodemeister	Todd Pletcher	50-1
7	Gormley	Malibu Moon	John Shirreffs	15-1
8	Guest Suite* (g)	Quality Road	Neil Howard	50-1
9	Gunnevera	Dialed In	Antonio Sano	50-1
10	Irish War Cry	Curlin	Graham Motion	30-1
11	Lookin At Lee	Lookin At Lucky	Steve Asmussen	30-1
12	Mastery	Candy Ride (ARG)	Bob Baffert	6-1
13	McCraken	Ghostzapper	Ian Wilkes	10-1
14	Mo Town	Uncle Mo	Anthony Dutrow	20-1
15	Mont Saint Legame (JPN)*	Came Home	Koji Maki	50-1
16	No Dozing	Union Rags	Arnaud Delacour	50-1
17	Petrov*	Flatter	Ron Moquett	50-1
18	Practical Joke	Into Mischief	Chad Brown	20-1
19	Sonic Mule*	Distorted Humor	Todd Pletcher	50-1
20	State of Honor*	To Honor and Serve	Mark Casse	50-1
21	Uncontested	Tiz Wonderful	Wayne Catalano	20-1
22	Untrapped*	Trappe Shot	Steve Asmussen	50-1
23	Wild Shot	Trappe Shot	Rusty Arnold	50-1
24	Mutuel Field (All Others)			8/5
Morning Line Odds by Mike Battaglia * - new wagering interest in KDFW Pool 2 (g) - gelding

 

Futures.  I have an ungodly amount (for me that is, Adam can vouch, I'm cheap) on Three Rules.  But of the other horses, Klimt 22/1, Practical Joke 60-1, Made you Look 175-1 (was hoping he would go to dirt, he's looked like the horse on turf), Gormley 19-1, Practical joke again 34-1, Snydergaard 59-1, Classic Empire 8-1, Not this Time 9-1, McCracken 40-1.  I have three rules 60-1, 24-1, 40-1, and 75-1. 

I'm thinking of putting more on him now that he isn't listed on the official futures bet.  In case you don't know, he's been putting up bullets after the Breeders Cup.  And by bullets, I think one of his works, he did a 5 furlong in 57 seconds at Gulfstream.  He finished 6th in the Breeders Cup Juveniles.  Here is what you may not now.  He was shipped out the week of the Breeders Cup.  He was vanned for 24 hours to Keenland.  Then flew 24 hours to Santa Anita.  And this was the week of the Breeders Cup.  The next Gulfstream points race is the Holy Bull on 2/4.  IMO, he's the perfect horse that you can still get big odds on.

[Adam]

No value in the Derby future pools unless you hit an exacta

[gotbeer]

7 minutes ago, Adam said:

No value in the Derby future pools unless you hit an exacta

Three Rules/Classic Empire

If you want to be brave, Three Rules/Classic Empire/McCraken

[Adam]

Depending on how I did Saturday I'd probably play a

Lookin At Lee / 5-7 horses

5-7 horses / Lookin At Lee

He can really close. Well bred. Good form. Huge price.