Thoroughbred Racing

[Adam]

Wow! Really? This is an amazing BC

[Adam]

Early PPs

BC Early Friday.pdf

BC Early Saturday.pdf

[Tank]

where is the BC this year?

[Adam]

Del Mar

[Tank]

if you can pick me up from work on friday (we only have one working car), i can go with you.

you'll also have to bring me home and pay for my dinner since i'm asgood at picking winners as i am at running marathons or hitting 400 yard drives. i'll be ready to go at 2:30.

 

thnx

Edited October 26, 2017 by Tank

[Adam]

I'm only going Saturday pal. Get an infield ticket. I think they're going for a couple hundo now. Take the amtrak. See you there! Bring me a sixer

[Tank]

okay. i'll let you know when i'm on the 5.

[Homebrewer]

On 10/26/2017 at 9:17 AM, Adam said:

Early PPs

BC Early Friday.pdf

BC Early Saturday.pdf

Thanks Adam..

Storm moving in up here, so I'm gonna watch and play a little.

 

[gotbeer]

So @Adam how did you do?  Looks like it was a typical Del Mar day, longshot city.  

[Adam]

I did okay but I lost about $1000 worth of photos.

 

i played amis Mesa across the board As my big play of the day. My other was Lancaster bomber across the board. Cashed decent on them but obviously if ami wins the photo I crush.

Lost a photo for 4th in the mile. Would have had the super for at least $600.

Hit the tri in the 1st race and in the sprint. All in all +$85

 

couldnt connect on any multis 

 

 

 

[Blarg]

But did you and DR bust up a cartel deal?

[Adam]

3 hours ago, Blarg said:

But did you and DR bust up a cartel deal?

And never spilled our beers

[Tank]

6 hours ago, Blarg said:

But did you and DR bust up a cartel deal?

i'm a little irritated he wasn't dressed in all white linen while wearing loafers with no socks.

[Blarg]

When undercover you have to fit in and fashion takes a back seat.

[gotbeer]

Horses killed, barns destroyed as fire sweeps through San Luis Rey Downs

This isn't going to be good.  

[gotbeer]

San Luis Rey Fire: What You Can Do To Help

Horsemen Report Equine Deaths in San Luis Rey Fire

Edited December 8, 2017 by gotbeer

[mrwicked]

On 11/5/2017 at 6:55 AM, Adam said:

I did okay but I lost about $1000 worth of photos.

 

i played amis Mesa across the board As my big play of the day. My other was Lancaster bomber across the board. Cashed decent on them but obviously if ami wins the photo I crush.

Lost a photo for 4th in the mile. Would have had the super for at least $600.

Hit the tri in the 1st race and in the sprint. All in all +$85

 

couldnt connect on any multis 

 

 

 

but that photo finish worked out for me. 

[Adam]

That was a different photo buddy. That one only cost me $200

[mrwicked]

On 12/8/2017 at 11:59 AM, Adam said:

That was a different photo buddy. That one only cost me $200

Damn didn't know you lost two photo finishes. Good times anyway.

[Adam]

46 minutes ago, mrwicked said:

Damn didn't know you lost two photo finishes. Good times anyway.

The silver lining is in the two races I lost photos, I still cashed. $60 and $140. But, it could have been $700 and $350. 

[Homebrewer]

Getting to be this time...

 

Kentucky Derby Futures: Four Risers You Need to Know on Crowded Trail

GAMBLING

January 2nd, 2018 BY Patrick Reed

 

 

 

 

 

Horses charge through the stretch at Tampa Bay Downs. (Penelope P. Miller/America's Best Racing)

 

 

One of the most exciting pit stops on the Road to the Triple Crown involves laying down some cash on a futures pick for the 2018 Kentucky Derby Presented by Woodford Reserve. Through April, America’s Best Racing will bring you up to date with the changing odds and notable entries at the pre-eminent Kentucky Derby future wager bookmaker on the Las Vegas strip – Wynn Las Vegas.

We’ll revisit these odds when new sheets are released (usually after a major prep race is completed). With each passing prep race, the number of viable Derby contenders will shrink, but as of now there are literally hundreds of horses out there that carry the dreams of owners and gamblers alike to find the Churchill Downs winner’s circle somewhere around 7 p.m. ET on May 5 – and some of them may have not even raced yet. 

Wynn’s latest odds update was released before the scheduled Jerome Stakes on New Year’s Day at Aqueduct, which was canceled last weekend due to the brutally cold weather encompassing the eastern half of the U.S. the first week of 2018. That race is expected to be rescheduled, and the next prep to offer qualifying points for the Kentucky Derby is the one-mile Grade 3 Sham Stakes at Santa Anita Park on Jan. 6. The Sham offers Derby points to the top four finishers on a 10-4-2-1 scale.

Dec. 27 Odds Leaders:

Wynn:

1. Bolt d’Oro (7-1)

2. McKinzie (11-1)

3. Good Magic (14-1)

4. Solomini (18-1)

5. Enticed (20-1)

5. Principe Guilherme (20-1)

Notable Changes:

Vino Rosso: Profiled in the last edition of this blog, this Todd Pletcher-trained Curlin colt followed up an eye-catching first-out win in November at Aqueduct with an easy 2 ½-length score in a one-mile and 70-yard allowance/optional claiming race at Tampa Bay Downs on Dec. 22. His odds dropped from 85-1 to 40-1 at Wynn and Pletcher said that colt would be nominated to the Feb. 7 Sam F. Davis Stakes at Tampa. He also cautioned against making any comparisons between this promising runner and last year’s Derby winner Always Dreaming, who took a similar New York-to-Florida path on the road to Churchill Downs.

Vision: This colt was also profiled in an earlier edition of this blog (on Dec. 8) and his odds continue to slide as well. Offered at 125-1 by Wynn on Dec. 18, he’s now sitting at 75-1 as the buzz continues to swirl about his prospects. He’s only raced once, and that at 5 ½ furlongs at Los Alamitos, but he’s bred to go much longer (he’s by 2013 Kentucky Derby winner Orb). His connections are also top-notch, as he’s trained by four-time Derby winner Bob Baffert and owned by a partnership that includes industry titan WinStar Farm and China Horse Club International, the latter of which has made a big jump into the sport in recent years in various partnerships.

Analyze It (BENOIT photo)

Analyze It: And here’s yet another who was profiled a while back and whose odds at Wynn’s book are dwindling, although in this case just a modest drop from 75-1 to 60-1. The growing interest in this colt’s Derby chances is dependent upon whether his connections decide to try him on turf, but there’s no doubt that his two career wins to date on turf (including a Nov. 26 runaway in the Grade 3 Cecil B. DeMille Stakes at Del Mar) are among the most visually impressive performances of any member of this 3-year-old crop. He’s yet to have a posted workout for Chad Brown since that win as of Jan. 1.

Kris’s Rocket Kat: This Eskendereya colt’s odds dropped from 200-1 to 150-1 at Wynn despite the fact that he has neither raced since winning a 6 ½-furlong maiden special weight race on Nov. 25 at Del Mar nor conducted a public posted workout. He’s based in Southern California with trainer Richard Baltas and has an intriguing pedigree, as young sire Eskendereya has thrown some good racehorses so far (such as Mor Spirit) and this colt’s dam (mother) was a long-distance specialist who won the 1 ½-mile Flaming Page Stakes at Woodbine in her final career start.

Four to Watch:

Peace: This cleverly named colt by promising young sire Violence (out of Queen’s Triomphe) is offered at 150-1 odds by Wynn, but that will very likely change after his breakthrough win on Dec. 30 at Santa Anita. Making his third start after two good runner-up efforts, he outfinished two Bob Baffert-trained colts to win a 1 1/16-mile maiden special weight race by three-quarters of a length. He’s owned by Spendthrift Farm and Town and Country Racing and trained by Hall of Famer Richard Mandella. Mandella has had more success as a trainer of 3-year-old fillies rather than colts in recent years, but that could change in 2018.  

Retirement Fund: This Steve Asmussen trainee enters Wynn’s book at odds of 125-1 after romping by 7 ¼ lengths in a one-mile and 70-yard maiden special weight at Fair Grounds on Dec. 22, his career debut. He set a slow pace on the front end with mild pressure from favored Enjoy the Journey (offered at 300-1 by Wynn) before drawing clear. He displayed a nice, fluid stride in the two-turn race. He’s owned by the L and N Racing partnership, which campaigned the Asmussen-trained Lookin At Lee to a runner-up finish in last year’s Kentucky Derby. He’s a half-brother (same sire, different dam [mother]) to graded stakes-winning sprinter Barbados.

Strike Power (Leslie Martin/Gulfstream Park)

Strike Power: Another new entry to Wynn’s sheet off of a sharp debut win, this Speightstown colt routed eight opponents in a 5 ½-furlong maiden at Gulfstream Park on Dec. 23, shooting to the lead from the inside post, staying near the rail throughout, and winning by eight lengths. Pedigree-wise, he’s got potential to stretch out, as his dam, Gold d’Oro (by top sire Medaglia d’Oro), won at the Derby’s 1 ¼-mile distance and is a relative of 1987 Belmont Stakes winner Bet Twice. He’s trained by Mark Hennig for owner-breeder Courtlandt Farm and is offered at intriguing 60-1 odds by Wynn.

Dak Attack: This well-bred Ghostzapper colt has been discussed before on this blog and was in the process of developing a fan following last summer due to his name, which honors Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott. He’s been sidelined since impressively winning the Ellis Park Juvenile in August for his second win in as many starts but is training well for Dale Romans at Gulfstream Park, where he posted a bullet :59.06 five-furlong workout on Dec. 30. According to Romans, he’s due to rejoin the Kentucky Derby trail on Jan. 6 in the one-mile Mucho Macho Man Stakes at Gulfstream.

[gotbeer]

Family Ties: Daughter Of Trainer Ron Ellis Speaks Out On CHRB Suspension

It's really getting hard for me to get behind racing in Calolfornia anymore.  CHRB is out to screw the bettor at every opportunity.  They make stupid decisions like against Ellis to cover their own inadequate asses, their stewards are inconsistent at best, unless it's a big name trainer, then they pander to them because they know they need their business.  Their takeout makes no sense.  And half the time their payouts make no sense.  

I've used to go a few times a month, especially now that it's derby season, but lately I've just lost interest of betting CA tracks.

[Homebrewer]

2 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Family Ties: Daughter Of Trainer Ron Ellis Speaks Out On CHRB Suspension

It's really getting hard for me to get behind racing in Calolfornia anymore.  CHRB is out to screw the bettor at every opportunity.  They make stupid decisions like against Ellis to cover their own inadequate asses, their stewards are inconsistent at best, unless it's a big name trainer, then they pander to them because they know they need their business.  Their takeout makes no sense.  And half the time their payouts make no sense.  

I've used to go a few times a month, especially now that it's derby season, but lately I've just lost interest of betting CA tracks.

Read that article today too, GB. They really gave Ellis the shaft. What a bunch of shit. 

[Adam]

On 1/2/2018 at 8:25 PM, gotbeer said:

Family Ties: Daughter Of Trainer Ron Ellis Speaks Out On CHRB Suspension

It's really getting hard for me to get behind racing in Calolfornia anymore.  CHRB is out to screw the bettor at every opportunity.  They make stupid decisions like against Ellis to cover their own inadequate asses, their stewards are inconsistent at best, unless it's a big name trainer, then they pander to them because they know they need their business.  Their takeout makes no sense.  And half the time their payouts make no sense.  

I've used to go a few times a month, especially now that it's derby season, but lately I've just lost interest of betting CA tracks.

Oaklawn starts next Friday. Such a great betting track. Prices galore! Gulfstream on the weekends is good too.

I'm with you for the most part. On the admin side, CA sucks, but Stronach and his team are doing really creative things. I will care a lot less about takeout and the other nuances of CA racing if they can increase field sizes, which they're addressing. I think a 3 day race week would be good for bettors. 

[gotbeer]

Tim Ritvo Lays Out Substantial Changes for Santa Anita

So here is what I got from this.  

First, the free parking/infield promotion was an absolute fail.  They are probably not generating the revenue they thought they would, and realized only the cheap bettors are going there, and the new people coming aren't betting.  So it sounds like they are taking it away.  Putting the stables in the free parking lot, and expanding the infield tracks.  Which isn't a bad thing.  Since they have added the free infield, very few promotions have been going on in the infield anyways.  All of the activity shifted to the grandstands or the paddock.  

The new training track.  From the sounds of it, and I might be wrong here.  But it's probably the old BKK landfill site that they are going to take over.  I thought it was in city of industry, but it could be West Covina.  That is a huge site.  So could very well be the 400 acres, which is over 2x the size of the Angels stadium lot.  Now this is some 20 years ago, I think when it was shut down, but the BKK site was toxic.  To the point that even in a prime area, I don't think they can build houses on that site.  So this is an opportunity for Stomach to probably buy the 400 acres for the training track, and probably have the city pay for it too.  It's that much of dead space.  This then goes to what they said about San Luis Rey Downs.  This will probably be sold for big money to developers.  Makes sense, it's in San Diego county where some big houses are.  Property values are probably at it's best.  So moving training from San Diego County to just up the street from Santa Anita makes sense, especially if you can turn a profit on such a move.  This also probably puts the final nail in Los Alamitos and Fairplex.  But we all knew that was coming a long time ago.  

The future move of putting a mall next to Santa Anita, or part of Santa Anita.  Not sure of this move.  There is already a mall in the former barns of Santa Anita.  Unless that land was leased to the mall people, and Santa Anita is going to take it back over, this doesn't make sense putting two malls next to each other.  Especially when one mall is limited use.  Again, it could be done.  But that sounds like it's a long term plan.