Freese or Iannetta's fault?

[stormngt]

I was unable to watch the game. I saw a video of the last play. With the bases loaded why wasn't Ianetta on the base for the force out. It looked like he was in front the base on the throw. Yes it was a bad throw but with a force the winning run would not score.

[Sherlock31]

I think it was first and third, not bases loaded.

[Lou]

yep 1st and 3rd

[stormngt]

My bad I was told the basis were loaded. I guess next question should be WHY THE HELL DIDNT FREEZE GO FOR THE DP?

Why didn't Soscia loaded the basis up since the winning run was on third setting up the force at home?

[gotbeer]

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_08_05_anamlb_lanmlb_1&mode=video

[Richard]

My bad I was told the basis were loaded. I guess next question should be WHY THE HELL DIDNT FREEZE GO FOR THE DP?

Why didn't Soscia loaded the basis up since the winning run was on third setting up the force at home?

 

2 reasons

 

1. The ball was hit too softly to 3rd to turn a double play and the only play was at home.

2. Dee Gordon was on deck and would have been tough to double up.

[Mudville]

My bad I was told the basis were loaded. I guess next question should be WHY THE HELL DIDNT FREEZE GO FOR THE DP?

Why didn't Soscia loaded the basis up since the winning run was on third setting up the force at home?

 

If you saw the play Freese was charging to make a bare hand grab, there was no way he would have been able to execute a throw to second, let alone turn a double play.

[CaliAngel]

Yeah Freese made the right call, he just made a bad throw and Iannetta compounded the mistake by not watching the ball go into his glove before he made the tag.

 

The runner coming home didn't even touch the plate the first time around, if Iannetta would have just caught the ball, he would have been out no matter what.

 

Still doesn't mean we'd be out of the inning though.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

I was unable to watch the game. I saw a video of the last play. With the bases loaded why wasn't Ianetta on the base for the force out. It looked like he was in front the base on the throw. Yes it was a bad throw but with a force the winning run would not score.

It wasn't a bad throw.

[Troll Daddy]

It wasn't a bad throw.

 

The throw was on the money .. inside the line a tad for a easy tag out.

 

100% agree

 

Looking closer  ... it kinda looks like Uribe knocked the ball out of CI's glove.

Edited August 7, 2014 by Troll Daddy

[Inside Pitch]

It wasn't a bad throw.

 

It was a terrible throw, anytime the ball is moving across a runners body away from you, it's a blind clutch.  First basemen blow those types of plays all the time.

Edited August 7, 2014 by Inside Pitch

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

It was a terrible throw, anytime the ball is moving across a runners body away from you, it's a blind clutch. First basemen blow those types of plays all the time.

Iannetta should've caught the ball.

[jshep]

It was a terrible throw, anytime the ball is moving across a runners body away from you, it's a blind clutch.  First basemen blow those types of plays all the time.

 

Yep, this.

 

It's very likely a play Iannetta would still tell you he should have made, but Freese did him absolutely no favors with that throw. Especially when he's also having to be conscious of leaving the runner a path to the plate.

[Inside Pitch]

Iannetta should've caught the ball.

 

He wasn't the one given the error.   

 

It was a terrible throw.   

Edited August 7, 2014 by Inside Pitch

[Inside Pitch]

Yep, this.

 

It's very likely a play Iannetta would still tell you he should have made, but Freese did him absolutely no favors with that throw. Especially when he's also having to be conscious of leaving the runner a path to the plate.

And the runner is going to run through his arm....    That's a difficult play with a first baseman's mitt, much more so with a catcher's mitt.   

[Troll Daddy]

Iannetta should've caught the ball.

 

He did catch the ball ... the collision knocked it lose.

[Richard]

I don't think it was an "on the money" throw, but it wasn't a completely terrible one either. Sounded like Iannetta was trying to stay out of Uribe's "path to the plate" and it looked like he was trying to brace for the impact with Uribe while trying to make a catch and still be able to hold on to the tag.

 

Either way it's over and I'm sure it's behind them.

[Lou]

Someone please post the video of the play.  I saw CI completely miss the ball before Uribe even reached him. He never caught the ball to have it dislodged.  It went off the edge of his mitt

[stormngt]

Thanks for the info.

2 reasons

1. The ball was hit too softly to 3rd to turn a double play and the only play was at home.

2. Dee Gordon was on deck and would have been tough to double up.

[Angelsjunky]

When I read the thread title I thought storm had fallen and couldn't get up.

[Inside Pitch]

Someone please post the video of the play.  I saw CI completely miss the ball before Uribe even reached him. He never caught the ball to have it dislodged.  It went off the edge of his mitt

 

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=340805119&teams=los-angeles-angels-vs-los-angeles-dodgers

 

There is probably a better video somewhere.

[Lou]

yep, he missed the throw

[stormngt]

Not needed. I stopped drinking during Angel games when they traded Frieri.

When I read the thread title I thought storm had fallen and couldn't get up.

[Troll Daddy]

yep, he missed the throw

 

You're blind as a bat Lou

[disarcina]

I blame the silly new rule about not blocking the plate.......

 

catchers are so leery of how this rule works/ is interpreted -- they seem afraid to do much of anything at the plate.

 

I say scrap this silly rule and let's return to real baseball where the catcher blocked the plate and the runner ran him over and tried to jar the ball loose.......