What we get for +- 50 Million per year

[yk9001]

I will give you props for being one person on here that has been against big name free agent signings from the get go. I totally disagree, unfortunately all you have to do to refute my stance is go to exhibit A and exhibit B who hit 3 and 4 in our line up. I guess I see it as black and white and maybe that doesn't have to be the case. But I see it like this, if we don't try to build a winner, then what happens when Trout and Richards are coming up on free agency? Do we resign them to contracts that maybe they won't be worth, or worse yet, will they stay if we never put other big name productive players around them? Despite the A's success, I would HATE to be a fan of that team right now. Every time you have a player mature into a great player or pitcher they are traded away. When was the last time they had a very good player play their entire career there?

 

I've actually been wrong, I thought these albatross contracts (whether via trade or FA) would hinder the ability to sign our good young players (the Weavers and Trouts).  There is no evidence that is the case.

[CaliAngel]

...Hamilton because I am guessing his hand is what is causing him to not drive the ball.

If it's not his hand it's his knee, rinse, repeat, yada yada.

[Stradling]

If it's not his hand it's his knee, rinse, repeat, yada yada.

Well we did witness him hurt his hand. So yea, I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Angel Oracle]

Sadly Grienke wanted to be in the NL and was going to the highest bidder, he basically said that in his press conference. Regardless of what contracts we had the Dodgers weren't going to be outbid.

Can't say I blame him, not just for the money but also seeing how well he hits the ball (.788 OPS in 2013, albeit under .500 so far).

Edited August 1, 2014 by Angel Oracle

[Guest]

Can't say I blame him, not just for the money but also seeing how well he hits the ball (.788 OPS in 2013, albeit under .500 so far).

in 2013 Zack Greinke had the same offensive WAR as Josh Hamilton.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Remember when Dipoto was called a genius for lining up all those back loaded deals. The balloon payments should be fun.

 

You have a different memory than I do. Backloaded deals are almost always a bad idea, especially lengthy ones.

[Hollyw00d]

Double play balls, strikeouts, phantom injuries, lazy base running, mental errors and excuses.

Not many wins

[Brandon]

Correct, the team is playing horribly this year.

[Hollyw00d]

Luckily the team isn't just the superstar trio of Pujols, Hamilton, and wells. The other guys are pulling their weight plus carrying those three.

[Brandon]

Yes, I assume they are carrying Wells since he's not on the team.

[Hollyw00d]

Since we are talking about payroll, and wells is still on it, yes.

[Brandon]

So?

 

What does Wells have to do with the Angels season?

[Hollyw00d]

That they are paying him 18 million for zero production. It's pretty simple.

[Brandon]

And how does that reflect in the standings?

[Oz27]

A thread which started with the revelation that Pujols and Hamilton weren't providing value for money is still going four pages later? Sheesh.

[Hollyw00d]

And how does that reflect in the standings?

What the f are you arguing? Do you even have a point?

[Hollyw00d]

If you're seriously arguing that there is no problem with the team flushing millions away on awful contracts, just because they are winning....that is utterly idiotic

[Brandon]

Why do you care how Arte spends his money?

 

I can see you bitching if it stopped moves or the team was playing poorly, but you are whining (again) about something irrelevant with Wells.

[Hollyw00d]

Ya, its not our money right?

stick to posting pictures of kids

[Brandon]

Those pics are still better than the shit you whine about.

[Hollyw00d]

And you whine about how there's not enough baseball discussion on this board, and yet all you posts are asinine pictures and sarcastic passive aggressive bitching about the content of the board.

for how much you cry about how the board needs better content, you sure as hell dont bring anything noteworthy. I see better more intelligent baseball discussion out of TD than you

[Brandon]

I'm glad you "see better more intelligent" than typing it.

[YouthofToday]

The Pujols contract was/is/will continue to be horrific.

I just hope the owner has learned his lesson not to sign 32-year-olds to long deals.

One must give the Dodgers credit as I do not believe any of the players have guaranteed contracts past their age 36 season.

[BleedRed]

Just back from a long trip, turn on the first  Angels game in weeks and Trout on first and Pujols hits into a 6-4-3 DP. I guess I didn't miss a thing. In fairness,  I then check the standings and see the Angels 21 games over .500. Something must be going right. (Was that Huston Street closing?) I agree with all the above re Pujols, but Hamilton  is a different story.Tthe guy blows hot and cold, but when he is hot he can carry a team.  I hope he's on a hot streak at playoff time and proves the doubters wrong.

[mancini79]

yankees can absorb it, we cant.  u do know the difference right?

 

"We" can't??

 

Sure seems like Arte has done a swell job putting a competitive team on the field.