The Trade Deadline Thread

[Mark68]

Streets doing alright.

Jorge de la Rosa has been pitching very well for the Rockies since about May.

[ten ocho recon scout]

that is correct.

plus he gets a $2M bonus

hahaha, hes probably pushing for the trade then. I know the dirst reaction is 'hes already rich, 2 million is nothing.' Disagree, 2 million just to change jerseys and probably for a better one is a lot of money.

[Mark68]

hahaha, hes probably pushing for the trade then. I know the dirst reaction is 'hes already rich, 2 million is nothing.' Disagree, 2 million just to change jerseys and probably for a better one is a lot of money.

I happen to like the Rockies' jerseys.

 

Their organization, however, sucks.

[ten ocho recon scout]

I could see a Lackey for Kemp swap.

Idk if Boston would really trade Lester. I'm sure they want to make him a QO in the off season and get a pick for him

To me that makes no sense. Lackey is dirt cheap, kemp is old and real expensive. Lackey (IMO) has a ton more trade value than kemp right now. Teams can always use pitching, and a number 2/3 starter whos cheap and has playoff experience is a pretty decent commodity.

I guess if the dogs pay a huge chunk it could happen...I just dont think kemp counts as a big bat anymore. And his fielding sucks.

Hes garret anderson 2006+ at this point

[nando714]

Kemp dropped 2 homers tonight

Sell high dodgers

[Cdaniel]

@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Athletics also in the mix for Lester, as first reported by @GordonEdes.

Lol wow

I bet tommy Milone is part of the package

Offered.

[Carlota Gonzalez]

I know Lackey is a complete dickbag, but if he's cheap, I wouldn't be mad if we traded for him. We need a starter. Weaver isn't as nails as he use to be, CJ is a ?mark, Skaggs and Santiago not ready to be trusted with a WS run. Richards and Shoemaker (and even he is a ? Mark) are the only rock solid bets we have on the mound. I mean I'd rather have Lester, but I wouldn't freak out over Lackey. But, I bet we wait til after the deadline for a starter.

[KevinStockerIsGod]

MLB Network Radio ‏@MLBNetworkRadio 2m

Scioscia on deadline: "Jerry DiPoto is working very hard,I don't know if you can say we're done.Right now, we're very confident in our team"

 

Not earth shattering info, but it sounds like we are doing a little more than "keeping our ear to the ground".

[ten ocho recon scout]

^im ansolutely positive dipoto is working the phones. I just dont really think anything major is going to happen. Mayyybe an alex ochoa type move. Like a utility infielder type of guy. But we dont really have the pieces to trade. Maybe the waiver wire though.

Besides, we got randy wolf

[Mudville]

Why do people still talk about the luxury tax as if it's a thing? If it really comes down to it, Arte, I'll pony up the $35 myself to see this team win a ring.

add six zeroes to the end of that $35 and he may take you up on it. Otherwise you can keep your bus fare.

[Lou]

Gradishar obviously doesn't understand the luxury tax. This is the second time he's made the same comment

[gotbeer]

Phillies Make Hamels Available; Dodgers Interested

 

 

Officials from other teams tell Stark that the Phillies are asking for each team’s top three or four prospects in any Hamels deal, but they’re only willing to eat about $10MM of the remaining $90MM+ on Hamels’ contract. 

 

[Stradling]

Well, he is right about the first year of the tax. It is like 17% the first year, so if we are over by $2 million it would be about $350k. The issue is that that percentage goes up tremendously as repeat offenders. Unless of course I am mistaking it for the NBA luxury tax hit.

[Stradling]

So four Rondons for Hamels? Sadly, our top four Rondons won't get it done, nor would it have gotten it done when we had the four we traded for Street.

[Angel Oracle]

If Pujols, Hamilton, and Wilson do what they are supposed to do, then we could stand pat aside from a tweak like Ochoa in 2002.

[gotbeer]

Well, he is right about the first year of the tax. It is like 17% the first year, so if we are over by $2 million it would be about $350k. The issue is that that percentage goes up tremendously as repeat offenders. Unless of course I am mistaking it for the NBA luxury tax hit.

 

I believe the tax is based on repeat offending in consecutive years.  So if you are over by $2 million in year one, and in year 2 you are under, then the tax resets.  

 

It's one of the biggest reasons why the Yankees are trying to get under the tax.  So that they can reset the penalties.

[Stradling]

I believe the tax is based on repeat offending in consecutive years. So if you are over by $2 million in year one, and in year 2 you are under, then the tax resets.

It's one of the biggest reasons why the Yankees are trying to get under the tax. So that they can reset the penalties.

The Yankees don't really want to get under. Last off season they talked about it like they were going to slash payroll, then they went on to sign Beltran, McCann, DiceK2 electric bugaloo, and Elsbury.

[Lou]

Well, he is right about the first year of the tax. It is like 17% the first year, so if we are over by $2 million it would be about $350k. The issue is that that percentage goes up tremendously as repeat offenders. Unless of course I am mistaking it for the NBA luxury tax hit.

but he keeps saying $350 not $350k

[Stradling]

but he keeps saying $350 not $350k

With us white guys Lou, we don't really squabble over a measly $349k, so yea.

[ten ocho recon scout]

I like the electric boogaloo reference

[Mad5577]

To me that makes no sense. Lackey is dirt cheap, kemp is old and real expensive. Lackey (IMO) has a ton more trade value than kemp right now. Teams can always use pitching, and a number 2/3 starter whos cheap and has playoff experience is a pretty decent commodity.

I guess if the dogs pay a huge chunk it could happen...I just dont think kemp counts as a big bat anymore. And his fielding sucks.

Hes garret anderson 2006+ at this point

 

you know he is hitting .282 with 10 homers with 44 rbi and .800 ops? that is not bad at all and he is trending up

i just don't see how much Josh is better than him being older than Kemp.

 i think Dodgers will keep him

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Hes trended up with a decent month snd a half. Ok, decent point. He 'may' end the year in the .280 high teens HR range.

That with pretty poor defense from now a corner outdield spot really isnt very good.

And hes still got 5 over 30s years left on that deal.

Hes a past his prime former power hitrer with poor outdield defense. Aka GA in the late years

[gotbeer]

Chances Of Lackey Trade Are “Very Good”

 

Makes sense.  Lester, people know the chances of him signing back with Boston is very high.  So he's just a few month rental.  Lackey they get for another year, and possibly longer.  So teams may be willing to give up a lot more for Lackey than Lester.

[nando714]

Masterson traded to St Louis

[Angel Oracle]

Masterson traded to St Louis

File this one under "trying to find lightning in a bottle".

He's struggled in 2014, but was really solid in 2013.

 

Meantime, the A's are desperately in need of that one starter with RECENT post-season experience.

Kazmir hasn't had it since 2009.   Pretty much everyone else is new to it, aside from Gray's late 2013 season work.