Top 10 Angel defensive 1st basemen

[seenoevil]

1. Snow

2. Texiera

3. Erstad

4. Spiezo

5. Stevens

6. Pujols

7. Aikens

8. Carew

9. Morales

10. Joyner

[Broad Street]

What? No Mo Vaughn?

[Docwaukee]

kotchman was pretty good. 

[nando714]

No Quinlan?

[Angelsjunky]

My gut response is that you're way underrating Joyner. I'll look up Fangraphs in a moment.

[Angelsjunky]

Wow - Fangraphs hates Snow and loves Erstad and no one is even close:

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=1b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2014&month=0&season1=1961&ind=0&team=1&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=19,d

[Docwaukee]

My gut response is that you're way underrating Joyner. I'll look up Fangraphs in a moment.

omg.  wait till you see the results.  pretty crazy. 

[Docwaukee]

Wow - Fangraphs hates Snow and loves Erstad and no one is even close:

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=1b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2014&month=0&season1=1961&ind=0&team=1&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=19,d

Erstad is the best defensive 1bman in the history of baseball. 

[Sherlock31]

Joyner #10? Did you ever watch Joyner play ?

[disarcina]

no mention of Jim Spencer?? I know that's going back a bit.

[mtangelsfan]

Bruce Bochte #1

[Angelsjunky]

Erstad is the best defensive 1bman in the history of baseball. 

 

Unfortunately those results are for all positions so they don't work. I can't get Fangraphs to filter out other positions.

[Second Base]

Joyner was one of the best defensive 1B I've ever seen.  Kotch was slick in the field as well. You'd think they'd both be up at the top of this list.  I remember every year in the late 80's and early 90's, the conversation for Gold Glove at 1B in the AL was either Mattingly or Joyner.  

[SoCALkid]

Napoli.

[Tank]

yeah, spencer and joyner were the first two that came to mind.

[disarcina]

Fangraphs seems to be an overall ranking of offense and defense........with the offense (as usual) taking precedence.  Nothing wrong with that.

 

But I assume this thread is asking BEST DEFENSIVE 1B.

 

I'd say 1.) Erstad  2.) JT Snow 3) Spencer and 4) Wally Joyner

 

couldn't go wrong with any of them.

 

of those listed, Spencer was really considered a defensive specialist and long before (the knock on) JT Snow, was criticized for not having corner power numbers at the plate.

 

I always like the way JT Snow played 1B and am sure he was responsible for some of the good stats the SF Giants pitchers had during his years there at 1B.

[joeywings]

You know JT and Ersty won GG at first base ? So did Carew. I guess we won't argue the first three.

Lee Stevens over Speez too. Lee was a Pacman with a good stretch at 1b.

[disarcina]

I guess Carew played a lot of 1B for us -- but to me he was/ is always will be a 2B -- that's where he played during his prime in Minnesota.

 

It's kinda like some folks forgetting that Ernie Banks was once a very good SS for the Cubs -- he spent the last half of his career at 1B.

[Season Over]

Paul McAnulty 

[Brandon]

My first thought was Snow and Joyner. Erstad seemed to piggyback CF which isn't fair at all since he was a boss at 1b.

[Halofan]

No doubt Erstad , Snow and Joyner belong on the list and Pujols will find his way up there to before all is said and done. Bochte belongs also he played with same kind of grit as Erstad. And I remember watching Wally Joyner as a wild eyed rookie you knew he would be special. I remember watching Carew the thing I remember most is that crazy stance he had all crouched and ready to strike. He was one of my first Angel players that I was a fan of as a kid towards the end of is career. I still have his rookie card.  J.T. Snow was the son of Jack Snow a former L.A. Rams football player. And Erstad was a kicker for the Nebraska Corn Huskers. A pure out country boy. I also think Mo Vaughn deserves a place on the list.

 

 It will be interesting to see who y'all think the top 10 starting pitchers will be.

Edited May 2, 2014 by Halofan

[Splint7438]

Third base will be good too. I rate players on the eye test. Numbers can be manipulated to say any number of things. First two I thought at first were JT Snow and Casey Kotchman. I remember Bruce Bochte as well but I was a kid and every Angel was the best I ever saw. Lol. Third base should have Decinces at the top. But I am guessing we will see Glaus or Chone ahead of Doug.

[eaterfan]

Erstad was the best I've ever seen at 1st for the Angels. I only go back to the JT Snow days. The switch from Erstad to Kotchman was a noticeable downgrade and Kotchman was no slouch.

[greginpsca]

Spencer also won a gold glove in 1970. He also won one in 1977, but not with the Angels. He was brought up to the Angels to replace Dick [ dr. strangeglove ] Stuart.

[Troll Daddy]

Erstad my all-time favorite! I remember meeting JT's dad (Jack Snow RIP) at a game. He was a very proud papa.