Cops are great

[ten ocho recon scout]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.ocregister.com/2017/10/31/huntington-beach-police-release-details-connecting-the-beating-of-man-at-his-home-to-a-man-shot-by-police-officers/amp/

Missed this when it broke a few weeks back, anyone else see it? Crazy.

We had one like that once. A lady was letting transients stay at her place. She called once to say one was getting violent, we told her to boot him but she refused. He stabbed her pretty badly (but she survived) about an hour after we left.

 

[gotbeer]

Didn't really belong in the random links thread.  But would this be considered good behavior?  

Prisoner kills inmate who beat infant daughter to death

Can we borrow him to put in some US cells?  

[gotbeer]

This one is a weird one.  Article is pretty confusing.  

 

Did an LAPD gang officer's actions help a killer flee? Accusations by Nevada cops resurface in court

 

[gotbeer]

They don't fuck around in Brazil.

Off-duty police officer shoots armed robbers dead while holding baby in other arm

[Jason]

5 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

They don't fuck around in Brazil.

Off-duty police officer shoots armed robbers dead while holding baby in other arm

If you go to Live Leak they have all kinds of crazy stuff from Brazil. 

[Blarg]

Pretty damn badass to take down an armed robber with a kid tucked under the arm. Like going ultra hard mode just to show who not to f with.  

[gotbeer]

Elderly couple suing police alleging excessive force after hibiscus plants mistaken for marijuana

Nationwide is not on your side.  

[gotbeer]

A teen asked why he was detained. ‘Because you’re white,’ the cop said.

 

[arch stanton]

A true American tragedy. I'm going to go shed some tears for the poor kid

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, gotbeer said:

A teen asked why he was detained. ‘Because you’re white,’ the cop said.

 

Was it MAGA?

[Blarg]

On 11/29/2017 at 7:59 AM, gotbeer said:

A teen asked why he was detained. ‘Because you’re white,’ the cop said.

 

#Whitelivesmatter

[nando714]

http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/08/arizona-cop-acquitted-for-killing-man-cr

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, nando714 said:

http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/08/arizona-cop-acquitted-for-killing-man-cr

Bad shoot. Fucking yahoos. 

Its one thing to say you have a credible reason to believe someone is a threat (man with a gun, i get it). Its another to escalate it...when by all accounts, the guy is cooperating. 

Bad shoot. 

There is no perfect way of doing anything. 5 right ways, one wrong, so to speak. But i dont see why they couldnt cuff them once these two were already proned out on the ground. 

Major fuckup.

[Tank]

exactly. why didn't his partner go over and cuff them while they were prone? i support the police strongly, but this kind of failure just shouldn't happen.

[ten ocho recon scout]

6 hours ago, Tank said:

exactly. why didn't his partner go over and cuff them while they were prone? i support the police strongly, but this kind of failure just shouldn't happen.

The only thing i can see not doing that (besides you still think hes armed) is that you have to cross those doorways in that hallway to get to them. You dont want to pass doorways in some situations...but not so much here 

I tey to never critique cops for tactics, unless theyre close to home. Different regions, different acadamies (different experiences) mean were going to do things different, and i (we) may be doing things dumb as hell and not know it. (LA and OC agencies have different techniques for the same things, and we work together in some cities). So tsctics wise, i try to not monday morning quarterback.

But this one is bad as hell. Sounds like (from the article) the shooter is a boot. Overzealous, no experience. No or little experience is always a dance, you get either too aggressive or too timid.

Something else to keep in mind, what is the crime?...its arizona...i think everyone can carry concealed there....and this guy wasnt in public (he was in a hotel room?)...im sure theres more to the story, but just from that info, there is no crime...

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

To piggyback @Tank, that cleveland shooting where they drove up and shot that kid. Again, i hate to critique tactics...and i get the cop felt threatened, because the call is a man with a gun, and the kid had "a gun". But they created the situation when they drove up on him like that.

[Jason]

22 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

The only thing i can see not doing that (besides you still think hes armed) is that you have to cross those doorways in that hallway to get to them. You dont want to pass doorways in some situations...but not so much here 

I tey to never critique cops for tactics, unless theyre close to home. Different regions, different acadamies (different experiences) mean were going to do things different, and i (we) may be doing things dumb as hell and not know it. (LA and OC agencies have different techniques for the same things, and we work together in some cities). So tsctics wise, i try to not monday morning quarterback.

But this one is bad as hell. Sounds like (from the article) the shooter is a boot. Overzealous, no experience. No or little experience is always a dance, you get either too aggressive or too timid.

Something else to keep in mind, what is the crime?...its arizona...i think everyone can carry concealed there....and this guy wasnt in public (he was in a hotel room?)...im sure theres more to the story, but just from that info, there is no crime...

 

That's the thing, where is the threat at the time of the shoot? I guess the guy's backstory is important but it doesn't appear that the force used matches the threat in this video.

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

That's the thing, where is the threat at the time of the shoot? I guess the guy's backstory is important but it doesn't appear that the force used matches the threat in this video.

Yeah, im sure theres some more to the story. At least more in terms of what the defense was able to present to the court. But the whole thing (at least from what i can see in the video)seems like a case of some nervous new guy shitting the bed in a pretty calm, routine scenario.

By all accounts (on the video), the guy was calm and cooperative. Again, i hate to quarterback tactics, but why make the guy crawl awkwardly toward you? 

[Jason]

2 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Yeah, im sure theres some more to the story. At least more in terms of what the defense was able to present to the court. But the whole thing (at least from what i can see in the video)seems like a case of some nervous new guy shitting the bed in a pretty calm, routine scenario.

By all accounts (on the video), the guy was calm and cooperative. Again, i hate to quarterback tactics, but why make the guy crawl awkwardly toward you? 

Graham V. Connor sets the bar at the reasonableness of the force to another officer in that same situation. I take it you do not find this force reasonable and I doubt most other officers would either. It's a bad shoot

[ten ocho recon scout]

Exactly. I think its a massive f*ck up. I think it was a retard boot that was too amped up in a situation hes either rarely or never having been exposed to.

Im all for being stern on verbal commands to get compliance...but the Sgt yelling at these two was overboard...and id venture to guess new boot was feeding off him and wondering if thats what the Sgt "would do" when he jumped the gun.

[Tank]

On 12/11/2017 at 7:01 PM, nando714 said:

http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/08/arizona-cop-acquitted-for-killing-man-cr

i'd like to know why they found him not guilty. the article (and the link to another article) doesn't address it.

[mtangelsfan]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/michigan-police-open-investigation-after-child-detained/ar-BBGEMPz

unarmed and not a suspect.  11 year old girl cuffed.

[the dude abides]

Prank call leads to unarmed man being shot and killed at his front door.

Chief blames prank caller, not his trigger happy officer.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/30/us/kansas-police-shooting-swatting/index.html

 

[gotbeer]

L.A. County sheriff's deputy is charged with selling drugs and offering to hire other cops to protect dealers

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 1/16/2018 at 8:47 PM, gotbeer said:

L.A. County sheriff's deputy is charged with selling drugs and offering to hire other cops to protect dealers

Unreal.

My first thought, and i hate to say it, was that it was going to be some younger deputy....unfortunstely, because LASD is so big, not as well paid, and constantly needing people, they end up hiring a lot of guys who shouldnt get the job. Thats not a knock on the agency as a whole, they have some outstanding guys there, and some of the areas they work are real bad, and they do a great job.

But again, when they are so big and not really a magnet agency (lower paid, have to work the jails for years, then mostly bad cities afterwards), they have to lower standards a bit....so some guys make it through who wouldnt elsewhere.

But this guy is old. Just a shady piece of shit.