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Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke
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AngelsTillDeath
Posted 2012-12-06 1:58 PM (#1894557)
Subject: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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The #Angels, even after acquiring Joe Blanton and Tommy Hanson, still are in the thick of the Zack Greinke free-agent sweepstakes.
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LACKEY41
Posted 2012-12-06 1:59 PM (#1894558 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



San Bernadino 66'ers

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Maybe that's why he hasn't signed yet. If the dodgers offer was so great he would have taken it already
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Floplag
Posted 2012-12-06 1:59 PM (#1894559 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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im gonan call BS... at 160 mil with the other moves made i just dont see it as anything other than a guy getting him name out there in the twitterverse
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AngelsTillDeath
Posted 2012-12-06 2:01 PM (#1894562 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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but you know what this is good for..

to tell everyone posting to sh*t up and wait a minute

and then complain..
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RePLAY
Posted 2012-12-06 2:02 PM (#1894564 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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bullllllshiiiznnniiiit
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bloodbrother
Posted 2012-12-06 2:03 PM (#1894565 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke




Watch it be the Angels just driving up the price to get the Dodgers/Rangers to keep outbidding themselves
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jshep
Posted 2012-12-06 2:08 PM (#1894568 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke


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Damn it, stop toying with my emotions, rumor mill.
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wopphil
Posted 2012-12-06 2:14 PM (#1894573 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke


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In the event we were to sign him, I think a lot of people on here would go from "the sky is falling" to "we have the best team in baseball." I would assume anyone being rational would understand that there is middle ground between the two positions and still penty of offseason to reach that middle ground.
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Sig Alert
Posted 2012-12-06 2:15 PM (#1894575 - in reply to #1894568)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke


Orem Owlz

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I can't wait for the posts that exhalt how great of a pitcher Greinke is and how $160 million is a fair price when the Angels re-sign him.
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Nando714
Posted 2012-12-06 2:16 PM (#1894577 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Id rather have Hamilton

Then flip someone for a solid SP
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Halocory22
Posted 2012-12-06 2:19 PM (#1894579 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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I'd rather get Hamilton as well. Trade Trumbo/Bourjos for a strong 2 or soft 1 starter.

With that said, I hope the Angels are in this just to keep the bidding war going between LAD/TEX. Let them overpay through the roof.
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Mile High Dreams
Posted 2012-12-06 2:24 PM (#1894591 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Dodgers won't grant him a no trade clause...rangers wont give him the years...look for the angels to do both. That's how JeDi get's it done.
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Nando714
Posted 2012-12-06 2:29 PM (#1894601 - in reply to #1894591)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Mile High Dreams - 2012-12-06 2:24 PM

Dodgers won't grant him a no trade clause...rangers wont give him the years...look for the angels to do both. That's how JeDi get's it done.


Isnt that how we landed Pujols n Wilson

Money-check
Years-check
No trade clause- check

?
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joesixpack
Posted 2012-12-06 2:29 PM (#1894603 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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I am currently holding my breathe..........
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gotbeer
Posted 2012-12-06 2:30 PM (#1894604 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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IMO, I think the Angels have offered something like a 5/$100 with 2 option years that could become vesting for $140 million total. They aren't going to go higher.

Doggies have probably topped it with a 7/$160.

Rangers are setting up their offer.

I think Greinke isn't comfortable playing for the Doggies with all the money they are floating around. If he was, he would have taken the deal already.

In the end, I think Greinke takes the deal with us for a lower amount. He has seen that Dipoto has shored up the pen, and sees that the starting pitching, with him as the final piece, should also be solid and is already familiar to him. Plus the offense is more than capable.

He is also not worried about pitching in a neutral pitching field, which is why I think he may pass up on the Rangers for the same high amount. That would be adding too much pressure on him, just like the big market Doggies pressure would be on him.

So after saying all that. He'll probably not sign with us.
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Big Game Hunter
Posted 2012-12-06 2:30 PM (#1894606 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Go for it, Jerry. Too many question marks in the rotation at the moment.
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Blarg
Posted 2012-12-06 2:31 PM (#1894607 - in reply to #1894601)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Nando714 - 2012-12-06 2:29 PM

Mile High Dreams - 2012-12-06 2:24 PM

Dodgers won't grant him a no trade clause...rangers wont give him the years...look for the angels to do both. That's how JeDi get's it done.


Isnt that how we landed Pujols n Wilson

Money-check
Years-check
No trade clause- check

?
10 year personal services contract check.
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Jay L
Posted 2012-12-06 2:33 PM (#1894610 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Top 10 most worthless tweet of the day?
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ELEVEN
Posted 2012-12-06 2:35 PM (#1894613 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Location: My Old Fontucky Home
$160 MM for 6 years + mutual option
Use of Arte's Buick on off days
Special use of underground bunker below team dugout to avoid Media pressure in an unpecedented time-share with Pujols' bat.
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bloodbrother
Posted 2012-12-06 2:49 PM (#1894621 - in reply to #1894610)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke




Jay L - 2012-12-06 2:33 PM Top 10 most worthless tweet of the day?

Right on par with probably this one

MLB Network PR@MLBNetworkPR

Insider @Ken_Rosenthal on the @Mariners’ interest in Josh Hamilton: “They are serious. They are not just doing this for show.” #MLBTonight

 

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Reveille1984
Posted 2012-12-06 2:50 PM (#1894622 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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If he gets anywhere close to $160M, it better not be us signing the check.
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rangersfan#1
Posted 2012-12-06 2:50 PM (#1894623 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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I have a feeling we will hear the term "mystery team" thrown around by his agent over the next few days
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Chuck Richter
Posted 2012-12-06 3:13 PM (#1894637 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: RE: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Between the Angels and Rangers it appears. Dodgers dropping out
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skills
Posted 2012-12-06 3:14 PM (#1894638 - in reply to #1894621)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



bloodbrother - 2012-12-06 2:49 PM

Jay L - 2012-12-06 2:33 PM Top 10 most worthless tweet of the day?

Right on par with probably this one

MLB Network PR ?@MLBNetworkPR

Insider @Ken_Rosenthal on the @Mariners’ interest in Josh Hamilton: “They are serious. They are not just doing this for show.” #MLBTonight

 



That will be awesome. Even better if the Halos get him.
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skills
Posted 2012-12-06 3:14 PM (#1894640 - in reply to #1894601)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



Nando714 - 2012-12-06 2:29 PM

Mile High Dreams - 2012-12-06 2:24 PM

Dodgers won't grant him a no trade clause...rangers wont give him the years...look for the angels to do both. That's how JeDi get's it done.


Isnt that how we landed Pujols n Wilson

Money-check
Years-check
No trade clause- check

?


Pujols, yes.
Wilson has reportedly significantly more money on the table from Miami.
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Soto Speaks
Posted 2012-12-06 3:15 PM (#1894642 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke




Location: Irvine
Texas here he comes.

We are done spending.
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Angel Oracle
Posted 2012-12-06 3:16 PM (#1894644 - in reply to #1894579)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Halocory22 - 2012-12-06 2:19 PM

I'd rather get Hamilton as well. Trade Trumbo/Bourjos for a strong 2 or soft 1 starter.

With that said, I hope the Angels are in this just to keep the bidding war going between LAD/TEX. Let them overpay through the roof.


And then hope Sanchez is still asking for $15 million/season for 5 years.
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Dude von Dudenstein
Posted 2012-12-06 3:17 PM (#1894646 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: Greinke talks reaching critical stage. #Dodgers considering pulling out and moving on to other pursuits.

Interesting
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Halocory22
Posted 2012-12-06 3:18 PM (#1894648 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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I call bs
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Troll Daddy
Posted 2012-12-06 3:19 PM (#1894651 - in reply to #1894646)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke




Location: Costa Mesa
I still think the Angels will get Greinke ... Rangers won't over pay.
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Dude von Dudenstein
Posted 2012-12-06 3:20 PM (#1894655 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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We just need Texas to be out on Upton, If that happens then we might just have a chance.
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rangersfan#1
Posted 2012-12-06 3:25 PM (#1894666 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Very interesting
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KMo34
Posted 2012-12-06 3:36 PM (#1894683 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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I think the upton 3 team trade has too many moving parts with too many really smart GMs to get done. I'm for the Hamilton signing and then flip Bourjos for a starter but if we could get Greinke we would have a solid rotation.

1. Weave
2. Greinke
3. Wilson
4. Blanton
5. Hanson
6. Richards
7. Williams
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fan_since79
Posted 2012-12-06 3:43 PM (#1894696 - in reply to #1894622)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Reveille1984 - 2012-12-06 2:50 PM

If he gets anywhere close to $160M, it better not be us signing the check.



Arte will be signing the check. It's his money to burn.


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Turd Ferguson
Posted 2012-12-06 4:01 PM (#1894714 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke


Orem Owlz

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I have a sinking feeling that Texas will sign Greinke and trade for Upton.
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rangersfan#1
Posted 2012-12-06 4:02 PM (#1894716 - in reply to #1894714)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Turd Ferguson - 2012-12-06 6:01 PM

I have a sinking feeling that Texas will sign Greinke and trade for Upton.


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bloodbrother
Posted 2012-12-06 4:08 PM (#1894729 - in reply to #1894714)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke




Turd Ferguson - 2012-12-06 4:01 PM I have a sinking feeling that Texas will sign Greinke and trade for Upton.

Same. 

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bdavis621
Posted 2012-12-06 4:13 PM (#1894736 - in reply to #1894714)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke


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And be stuck with a gazillion dollar payroll. Good luck in your one and one playoff series again.
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Dude von Dudenstein
Posted 2012-12-06 4:14 PM (#1894740 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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@JonHeymanCBS: As said earlier, greinke likes rangers nucleus and chances going forward. Also enjoyed tex meeting. Game isn't over yet tho

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bloodbrother
Posted 2012-12-06 4:18 PM (#1894745 - in reply to #1894740)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke




Dude von Dudenstein - 2012-12-06 4:14 PM @JonHeymanCBS: As said earlier, greinke likes rangers nucleus and chances going forward. Also enjoyed tex meeting. Game isn't over yet tho

add in his wife is from Texas/was a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. It's not looking good. Hopefully the rumors are true in that he signs a 6-7yr deal worth well over $160 million

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jshep
Posted 2012-12-06 4:20 PM (#1894747 - in reply to #1894745)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke


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bloodbrother - 2012-12-06 4:18 PM

Dude von Dudenstein - 2012-12-06 4:14 PM @JonHeymanCBS: As said earlier, greinke likes rangers nucleus and chances going forward. Also enjoyed tex meeting. Game isn't over yet tho

add in his wife is from Texas/was a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. It's not looking good. Hopefully the rumors are true in that he signs a 6-7yr deal worth well over $160 million



Actually it doesn't sound like his wife is from Texas, they apparently met in high school in Florida.

But ya, not looking good.

Edited by jshep 2012-12-06 4:21 PM
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Dude von Dudenstein
Posted 2012-12-06 4:22 PM (#1894753 - in reply to #1894745)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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bloodbrother - 2012-12-06 4:18 PM

Dude von Dudenstein - 2012-12-06 4:14 PM @JonHeymanCBS: As said earlier, greinke likes rangers nucleus and chances going forward. Also enjoyed tex meeting. Game isn't over yet tho

add in his wife is from Texas/was a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. It's not looking good. Hopefully the rumors are true in that he signs a 6-7yr deal worth well over $160 million



Tex nucleus and farm system also plays a big part in this. Part of the reason he turned down the Nats $100M offer 3 years ago was due to their farm at the time.
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Blarg
Posted 2012-12-06 4:30 PM (#1894762 - in reply to #1894747)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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jshep - 2012-12-06 4:20 PM

bloodbrother - 2012-12-06 4:18 PM

Dude von Dudenstein - 2012-12-06 4:14 PM @JonHeymanCBS: As said earlier, greinke likes rangers nucleus and chances going forward. Also enjoyed tex meeting. Game isn't over yet tho

add in his wife is from Texas/was a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. It's not looking good. Hopefully the rumors are true in that he signs a 6-7yr deal worth well over $160 million



Actually it doesn't sound like his wife is from Texas, they apparently met in high school in Florida.

But ya, not looking good.
She was born in Daytona Beach and claims to be a Floridian. So Greinke is going to be a Ray.
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jshep
Posted 2012-12-06 4:32 PM (#1894764 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke


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Nah, he'll be a Marlin.

And then by July he'll be a Blue Jay.

Edited by jshep 2012-12-06 4:33 PM
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Sig Alert
Posted 2012-12-06 4:34 PM (#1894765 - in reply to #1894762)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke


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Let his hometown team the Marlins sign him to a 7 year deal so we can trade for him in a couple months.
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Stradling
Posted 2012-12-06 4:43 PM (#1894768 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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So we believe media reports that say he is about to get paid $160 million, but we don't believe the media reports that say we are still involved in the negotiations?
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HaloMagic
Posted 2012-12-06 4:43 PM (#1894769 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Funny how people choose to believe the tweet that says the Dodgers are bowing out but not the ones that say the Angels are.
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Stradling
Posted 2012-12-06 4:45 PM (#1894770 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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If he signs for $160 million it will not be the Angels signing him. Come to think of it I doubt Texas would go that high. I truly think you will see him go for about $100-$120 million over 5 or 6 years, and if that is the case then we have a good shot at signing him.
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ukyah
Posted 2012-12-06 5:14 PM (#1894791 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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whatever amount it is or whomever it is that signs him, it will be big news, with big implications for everyone and for a lot of money.
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Scott34
Posted 2012-12-06 5:22 PM (#1894797 - in reply to #1894557)
Subject: Re: Angels still in the "thick" of it with Greinke



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Have a hard time seeing our payroll rise to 160M ++
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