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kevinstockerisgod
Posted 2012-11-29 8:36 AM (#1887714)
Subject: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Sources: #Brewers, #RedSox, #Angels among teams expressing interest in Dempster. Seeking three-year deal.
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xboom28x
Posted 2012-11-29 8:48 AM (#1887723 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Not sure how I feel about this. Maybe as a #4. But not for 3 years.
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jsnpritchett
Posted 2012-11-29 8:49 AM (#1887724 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Blech.
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AngelsAndRamsFan
Posted 2012-11-29 8:49 AM (#1887726 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Let the Brewers or Red Sox have him.
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Floplag
Posted 2012-11-29 9:09 AM (#1887748 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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WTF for? he blew in Chi, he blew worse in Tex.. we want this why? hes got to be about 8 or 9 on the SP depth chart.. are we desperate already?
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HaloMagic
Posted 2012-11-29 9:13 AM (#1887752 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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He did awesome in Chicago in 2012. And he had a stretch of starts with Texas where he was pretty good, too. His last start against the A's was pretty unclutch though.

No interest from me, though. I just don't think it's fair to simply say he blew.
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Reveille1984
Posted 2012-11-29 9:16 AM (#1887757 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Some NL team will give him more than us anyways. I can't see Dipoto giving Dempster 3 years, especially in the AL.
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wopphil
Posted 2012-11-29 9:16 AM (#1887759 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster


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I think he is much better than you guys are giving him credit for. It is true that he had a down year in 2011 and wasn't very good for Texas, but over the last five years he has, generally speaking, been very good, durable, and consistent. Pitching in a pitcher's park like Anaheim, with a good defense behind him, could make him an excellent #4 starter.

I wouldn't go three years on him, but I would absolutely give him something along the lines of 2/18 with the potential to earn another 6 mil or so based on games started. Of course, maybe some team will give him 3/42.
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Schildog
Posted 2012-11-29 9:16 AM (#1887761 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster


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cum dumpster more like.
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Angel Oracle
Posted 2012-11-29 9:17 AM (#1887763 - in reply to #1887759)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Isn't he getting up there in years though (36 in May)?
When do we STOP giving 3 or more year deals to guys in their mid/late 30s?

Edited by Angel Oracle 2012-11-29 9:18 AM
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Schildog
Posted 2012-11-29 9:19 AM (#1887767 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster


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say stop it just stop it.
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bloodbrother
Posted 2012-11-29 9:36 AM (#1887779 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster




For 2 years, maybe. 3? No thanks. He's gonna be 36 years old next May

Floplag - 2012-11-29 9:09 AM WTF for? he blew in Chi, he blew worse in Tex.. we want this why? hes got to be about 8 or 9 on the SP depth chart.. are we desperate already?

Blew in Chicago? Once they put him back in the rotation, he gave them ERA's under 4(twice under 3) for 4 of the last 5 years while racking up a good amount of K's



Edited by bloodbrother 2012-11-29 9:39 AM
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Scott34
Posted 2012-11-29 9:52 AM (#1887785 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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I'm fine with this as the "second tier" guy
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RePLAY
Posted 2012-11-29 10:05 AM (#1887791 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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he's just gonna be another santana for us. pass.
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gotbeer
Posted 2012-11-29 10:06 AM (#1887793 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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I'd rather have Haren than Dempster.
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WallyWorld
Posted 2012-11-29 10:11 AM (#1887794 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: RE: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Yuck.

I'm hoping this is just a byproduct of Dipoto keeping his options open, exploring a ton of SP.
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Mycorona135
Posted 2012-11-29 10:40 AM (#1887816 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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I have no interest in dumpster.
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Hamiltown
Posted 2012-11-29 10:53 AM (#1887826 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: RE: Angels Interested in Dempster



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LMAO if we sign him and throwing in the towel on Dipoto!
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katierose31
Posted 2012-11-29 10:59 AM (#1887837 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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no thanks
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IEBRUIN
Posted 2012-11-29 11:01 AM (#1887841 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster




Hell yeah.

3 years $6 million (total)
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Angel Oracle
Posted 2012-11-29 11:07 AM (#1887851 - in reply to #1887767)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Schildog - 2012-11-29 9:19 AM

say stop it just stop it.


Just STOP it!

Ahhh, I feel better now.
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Hamiltown
Posted 2012-11-29 11:32 AM (#1887888 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: RE: Angels Interested in Dempster



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There's nothing to this. Dempster is probably just answering a Craigslist add that Dipoto submitted for starting pitching.
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HaloFan85
Posted 2012-11-29 12:03 PM (#1887930 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster




He flamed out in the 2nd half last season either due to age or pitching in the AL. Opponents had an .851 OPS off him in Arlington, so imagine him pitching there as the opposing pitcher. It could be as bad as Santana. I wouldn't go anywhere near this guy.

Quit dumpster diving, JP.
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SO CAL HALOS FAN
Posted 2012-11-29 12:23 PM (#1887958 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: RE: Angels Interested in Dempster



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I'd rather give Wells a chance on the bump than to give 3 years to a 36yr old that got lit up in Arlington. He's an NL pitcher! Let him go to Pittsburgh~

Edited by SO CAL HALOS FAN 2012-11-29 12:40 PM
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angelduck
Posted 2012-11-29 12:37 PM (#1887983 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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LOL. We're so &^@%ed. Dipoto needs to be looking at Marcum, Mccarthy, and Sanchez. Not Dempster.
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laagamer
Posted 2012-11-29 12:39 PM (#1887987 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: RE: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Why would we want this guy? What a waste of money.

He's had a couple of good seasons for the Cubs and they gave him a huge contract, but he's decent at best. We'll be lucky if he turns in a sub 4.00 ERA next year. I'm guessing a whip somewhere in the 1.4's.

I love pitchers who can't throw strikes. I think we should re-sign K-Rod while we're at it!


I really hope we're not this foolish.

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AngelsOwnAll
Posted 2012-11-29 1:37 PM (#1888113 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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There are better options out there than Dempster.




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AngelsOwnAll
Posted 2012-11-29 1:39 PM (#1888116 - in reply to #1887983)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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angelduck - 2012-11-29 12:37 PM Dipoto needs to be looking at Marcum, Mccarthy, and Sanchez. Not Dempster.

 

Agreed.  I'd take Saunders over Dempster as well.

 

 

 

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jshep
Posted 2012-11-29 1:43 PM (#1888124 - in reply to #1887983)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster


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angelduck - 2012-11-29 12:37 PM

Dipoto needs to be looking at Marcum, Mccarthy, and Sanchez. Not Dempster.


Ya, I rather have one of those guys. Dempster isn't terrible, but he's not my first choice, and especially not for the type of contract he's looking for.


And Joe Saunders should be somewhere around Plan E or F as well.

Edited by jshep 2012-11-29 3:00 PM
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ucsbhubs
Posted 2012-11-29 2:03 PM (#1888154 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



Why?
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Mark68
Posted 2012-11-29 2:38 PM (#1888189 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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GlenM
Posted 2012-11-29 2:42 PM (#1888195 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster




"Dipoto needs to have a plan and a backup plan for replacing Haren and Santana in the rotation!"

"Why is he looking at this pitcher?"

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Mark68
Posted 2012-11-29 2:44 PM (#1888198 - in reply to #1888195)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Tin00can - 2012-11-29 3:42 PM

"Dipoto needs to have a plan and a backup plan for replacing Haren and Santana in the rotation!"

"Why is he looking at this pitcher?"





Because apparently, he needs a backup to the backup to the backup to the backup to the backup to the backup plan...


Seriously, Dempster should be Plan Z...for "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz".
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tdawg87
Posted 2012-11-29 2:46 PM (#1888200 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Dempster would be an awesome number 4, and a solid number 3.

Certainly not my top choice, or even 2nd choice, but if he can be had for a decent figure, he wouldn't be a terrible option.
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Chuck Richter
Posted 2012-11-29 2:48 PM (#1888201 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: RE: Angels Interested in Dempster



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I'd be happy with Dempster and Anibal Sanchez for the same price we'd have to pay for Greinke.
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Hamiltown
Posted 2012-11-29 2:50 PM (#1888206 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: RE: Angels Interested in Dempster



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At the end of the day; Haren > Santana > Dempster

Mr. Dipoto, what in the hell are you thinking?
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Mycorona135
Posted 2012-11-29 2:57 PM (#1888212 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Yeah I'd rather have Haren or Cantana than Dumpster.
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Troll Daddy
Posted 2012-11-29 3:26 PM (#1888230 - in reply to #1888212)
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Mycorona135 - 2012-11-29 2:57 PM

Yeah I'd rather have Haren or Cantana than Dumpster.


Dipoto made it clear that the Angels haven't closed the door on Haren on the radio today.
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AngelsAndRamsFan
Posted 2012-11-29 10:04 PM (#1888509 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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It looks like Dempster is going to get at least three years. I hope he doesn't get 3+ years from the Angels!

The Royals offered Ryan Dempster a two-year, $26MM contract but are no longer bidding on the Canadian right-hander now that his price tag has risen, reports Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star. At least six teams besides Kansas City have been connected to Dempster this offseason.

Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#pWrgGIOT4HgI1sfc.99
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AZMike
Posted 2012-11-29 10:08 PM (#1888512 - in reply to #1888509)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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AngelsAndRamsFan - 2012-11-29 10:04 PM

It looks like Dempster is going to get at least three years. I hope he doesn't get 3+ years from the Angels!

The Royals offered Ryan Dempster a two-year, $26MM contract but are no longer bidding on the Canadian right-hander now that his price tag has risen, reports Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star. At least six teams besides Kansas City have been connected to Dempster this offseason.

Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#pWrgGIOT4HgI1sfc.99


1yr/$12M for Santana doesn't look so bad after all
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Hamiltown
Posted 2012-11-29 10:14 PM (#1888515 - in reply to #1888230)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Troll Daddy - 2012-11-29 3:26 PM

Mycorona135 - 2012-11-29 2:57 PM

Yeah I'd rather have Haren or Cantana than Dumpster.


Dipoto made it clear that the Angels haven't closed the door on Haren on the radio today.


No they slammed it!
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socaliente
Posted 2012-11-29 10:15 PM (#1888516 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Dempster is an overpriced batting practice pitcher.
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bloodbrother
Posted 2012-11-29 10:36 PM (#1888533 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster




Dempster is better than what some of you think, but if that report is accurate that his price has "risen" above a 2yr/$26 million offer, then forget about it. No thanks to that
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jshep
Posted 2012-11-29 10:37 PM (#1888536 - in reply to #1888533)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster


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bloodbrother - 2012-11-29 10:36 PM

Dempster is better than what some of you think, but if that report is accurate that his price has "risen" above a 2yr/$26 million offer, then forget about it. No thanks to that


Yeah, all of this.

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dochalo
Posted 2012-11-29 10:56 PM (#1888551 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster


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Dempster would be fine as a #4 and I'd rather have him than Haren or Santana for 2013, but the problem is that we'd get him for 2014 and 15 as well. No likey
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YouthofToday
Posted 2012-11-29 11:04 PM (#1888558 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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Don't get the Dempster hate. His numbers in 2011 were due in large part to being distracted by a life-threatening illness his young daughter had.

I would be fine with a 3 year deal for him.
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xboom28x
Posted 2012-11-30 6:10 AM (#1888611 - in reply to #1887714)
Subject: Re: Angels Interested in Dempster



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If Greinke isn't going to happen, I would be fine with Dempster at an average annual salary of $10M over 3 years. Still cheaper than Haren or Santana, and still allows you to get the #3/#4 starter that will still be needed.
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Vegas Halo Fan
Posted 2012-11-30 11:10 AM (#1888865 - in reply to #1887714)
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The Angels are going to be tied to just about every available pitcher not named Rivera or Pettitte by various sports writers.
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