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ucsbhubs
Posted 2012-11-12 4:37 PM (#1878455)
Subject: Who is next years break out young player?



On the heels of Mike Trout becoming the second Angel to win the AL Rookie of the Year, I am wondering who will be the best young player next year for the Angels. Not necessarily a rookie, either. Most of us knew Trout would be up last season at some point, but no one thought the guy would be up and dominate like he did. I expected him to get a late season call up, July or August, particularly because they had a good center fielder already, in Peter Bourjos, and two veteran ones in Hunter and Wells. Plus Trumbo, Abreu, Morales, etc…I didn't see him getting full time AB's. I'm glad I was wrong.

In 2011, I don't think many saw the Angels having Mark Trumbo, Jordan Walden, or Peter Bourjos as three of the best players on their team that year. All three played major parts in the Angels season.

In 2010, I guess the best young player was really non-existent. The team didn't really have a young breakout guy, nor did they have any young guy ready for the show.

In 2009, the two young players that come to mind first are Erick Aybar and Kendrys Morales. Both had been around for a few seasons, but they really stepped forward in 2009. Nick Adenhart would have been the breakout pitcher that season had it not been for his untimely passing.

In 2008, the best young performance came from the pitching side in Ervin Santana and Joe Saunders. I don't think people thought they would be as good as they were that year.

In 2007, Casey Kotchman hit 37 doubles and Kendrick stepped forward.

In 2006, then 25 year old Macier Izturis had his best year as an Angel, and Jered Weaver pitched exceptionally well in his first big league season.

In 2005, Chone Figgins probably had his breakout season after being pretty good in parts of 03 and 04.

Anyway… Most years it seems to me like there was always someone who they didn't really count on, or maybe they did, without a major track record of success, who really takes a step forward.

Who will it be in 2013?

My bet is on Kole Calhoun and/or Hank Conger. I hope they do well and push their way into semi-regular roles. We'll see!
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AngelsAndRamsFan
Posted 2012-11-12 4:41 PM (#1878462 - in reply to #1878455)
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Conger and Calhoun probably won't get enough playing time to have a break out year. If I had to pick, I'd say it would be a young pitcher (RP) that would have a break out year for the Angels in 2013.
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Ray McKigney
Posted 2012-11-12 4:42 PM (#1878463 - in reply to #1878455)
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mrwicked
Posted 2012-11-12 4:45 PM (#1878467 - in reply to #1878455)
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lando calrissian.
plus whatever kid pitcher they call up - no room for youngster bats.
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Hamiltown
Posted 2012-11-12 4:46 PM (#1878468 - in reply to #1878455)
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ucsbhubs - 2012-11-12 4:37 PM

On the heels of Mike Trout becoming the second Angel to win the AL Rookie of the Year, I am wondering who will be the best young player next year for the Angels. Not necessarily a rookie, either. Most of us knew Trout would be up last season at some point, but no one thought the guy would be up and dominate like he did. I expected him to get a late season call up, July or August, particularly because they had a good center fielder already, in Peter Bourjos, and two veteran ones in Hunter and Wells. Plus Trumbo, Abreu, Morales, etc…I didn't see him getting full time AB's. I'm glad I was wrong.

In 2011, I don't think many saw the Angels having Mark Trumbo, Jordan Walden, or Peter Bourjos as three of the best players on their team that year. All three played major parts in the Angels season.

In 2010, I guess the best young player was really non-existent. The team didn't really have a young breakout guy, nor did they have any young guy ready for the show.

In 2009, the two young players that come to mind first are Erick Aybar and Kendrys Morales. Both had been around for a few seasons, but they really stepped forward in 2009. Nick Adenhart would have been the breakout pitcher that season had it not been for his untimely passing.

In 2008, the best young performance came from the pitching side in Ervin Santana and Joe Saunders. I don't think people thought they would be as good as they were that year.

In 2007, Casey Kotchman hit 37 doubles and Kendrick stepped forward.

In 2006, then 25 year old Macier Izturis had his best year as an Angel, and Jered Weaver pitched exceptionally well in his first big league season.

In 2005, Chone Figgins probably had his breakout season after being pretty good in parts of 03 and 04.

Anyway… Most years it seems to me like there was always someone who they didn't really count on, or maybe they did, without a major track record of success, who really takes a step forward.

Who will it be in 2013?

My bet is on Kole Calhoun and/or Hank Conger. I hope they do well and push their way into semi-regular roles. We'll see!


2008 = Jeff Mathis
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tdawg87
Posted 2012-11-12 4:47 PM (#1878470 - in reply to #1878455)
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Maronde, if anyone.
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Blarg
Posted 2012-11-12 4:47 PM (#1878471 - in reply to #1878455)
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Mike Napoli finally had his breakout year in 2011.

Then went back to being Mike Napoli.
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GlenM
Posted 2012-11-12 5:00 PM (#1878483 - in reply to #1878455)
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Ernesto Frieri is gonna go down with an injury and Walden will surprise everybody by being a lights-out closer for the rest of the year.
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NJHalo
Posted 2012-11-12 5:02 PM (#1878484 - in reply to #1878455)
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Jimmy Reese
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Tyler
Posted 2012-11-12 5:13 PM (#1878492 - in reply to #1878455)
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I'm liking Maronde as well.
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Angels_for_life
Posted 2012-11-12 6:10 PM (#1878527 - in reply to #1878455)
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ScottyAllenLAAI
Posted 2012-11-12 6:16 PM (#1878531 - in reply to #1878455)
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It'll be Garrett Richards, who will establish himself as a legit back of the rotation option. Also, Andrew Romine will put together a decent year. Finally, I think Daniel Tillman and R.J. Alvarez will arrive late in the season and provide something new for the bullpen.
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JAHV76
Posted 2012-11-12 6:56 PM (#1878548 - in reply to #1878455)
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They will need Richards to be a good fifth starter.
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AZMike
Posted 2012-11-12 7:08 PM (#1878554 - in reply to #1878471)
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Blarg - 2012-11-12 4:47 PM

Mike Napoli finally had his breakout year in 2011.

Then went back to being Mike Napoli.


Anyone else think Fernando Rodney comes back down to earth in 2013 similar to Napoli this year?
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seenoevil1
Posted 2012-11-12 7:56 PM (#1878570 - in reply to #1878455)
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Wallerrrr
Posted 2012-11-12 8:35 PM (#1878593 - in reply to #1878455)
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ELEVEN
Posted 2012-11-12 9:33 PM (#1878625 - in reply to #1878455)
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Any scouting info on this Calrissian kid?
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Halocory22
Posted 2012-11-12 9:45 PM (#1878630 - in reply to #1878455)
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Lando?
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YouthofToday
Posted 2012-11-12 10:03 PM (#1878637 - in reply to #1878455)
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YouthofToday
Posted 2012-11-12 10:05 PM (#1878638 - in reply to #1878570)
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seenoevil1 - 2012-11-12 7:56 PM CJ CRON

 Doubtful. Dude has as much plate discipline as Mark Trumbo -- this is NOT a compliment. 

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tdawg87
Posted 2012-11-12 10:20 PM (#1878640 - in reply to #1878625)
Subject: Re: Who is next years break out young player?



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ELEVEN - 2012-11-12 9:33 PM

Any scouting info on this Calrissian kid?


All I know is that he's a man, and not a system.
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laagamer
Posted 2012-11-12 10:26 PM (#1878641 - in reply to #1878455)
Subject: RE: Who is next years break out young player?



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Since I've started watching baseball I've always been an Angel fan, and I've always wished we could have just 1 kid that comes up and tears the league apart. Someone I could watch come up and show the league how to play the game from day 1.

Pujols, Cabrera, Longoria, guys like that.

Mike Trout is better than all of them.

Next years break out player? Why not Nick Maronde.

Edited by laagamer 2012-11-12 10:31 PM
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mrwicked
Posted 2012-11-12 11:15 PM (#1878652 - in reply to #1878640)
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tdawg87 - 2012-11-12 10:20 PM

ELEVEN - 2012-11-12 9:33 PM

Any scouting info on this Calrissian kid?


All I know is that he's a man, and not a system.


he's got a plus curve, can hit to all fields, and does well both out of the stretch and the windup especially when bunting to the warning track on hit n runs before going for his strike out pitch down the line.
total 5+1 tooler.
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AngelClipperFanInOz
Posted 2012-11-13 1:05 AM (#1878675 - in reply to #1878637)
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YouthofToday - 2012-11-13 1:03 PM

Bourjos
Bingo. With the playing time, he'll establish himself as a very good MLB CF.

I'm also pretty confident in Maronde and, to a lesser extent, Richards.
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ScottyAllenLAAI
Posted 2012-11-13 1:14 AM (#1878678 - in reply to #1878455)
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I feel confident that Calrissian will be the next great African American player. He flies, just the way Bourjos and Trout do, but he seems to have a millennial falcon type of power and it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to say he has a "laser" for an arm. All in all, a great all around player, and according to one scout who wished to be known only as Leah, he's quite the scoundrel, which means he exudes confidence and is a competitor.

A great prospect, a lot of upside, his future lies somewhere in the clouds. Cloud city if you will.
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AZMike
Posted 2012-11-13 1:30 AM (#1878683 - in reply to #1878637)
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YouthofToday - 2012-11-12 10:03 PM

Bourjos


I saw an interesting comment on another board claiming that:

Trumbo (LF) / Trout (CF) / Bourjos (RF) would be better than Trout (LF) /Bourjos (CF) /Trumbo (RF). The idea is Trout would be seriously underutilized in left, Bourjos has a strong throwing arm suitable for RF, and that the weakest OF (Trumbo) should be in left.

Especially given the comments that Trout has openly said he's disappointed about starting LF it seemed like an interesting thought.

Edited by AZMike 2012-11-13 1:31 AM
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AngelClipperFanInOz
Posted 2012-11-13 1:52 AM (#1878686 - in reply to #1878683)
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AZMike - 2012-11-13 4:30 PM

YouthofToday - 2012-11-12 10:03 PM

Bourjos


I saw an interesting comment on another board claiming that:

Trumbo (LF) / Trout (CF) / Bourjos (RF) would be better than Trout (LF) /Bourjos (CF) /Trumbo (RF). The idea is Trout would be seriously underutilized in left, Bourjos has a strong throwing arm suitable for RF, and that the weakest OF (Trumbo) should be in left.

Especially given the comments that Trout has openly said he's disappointed about starting LF it seemed like an interesting thought.
Bourjos is a better outfielder than Trout, so he should play the most challenging position. Changing that just because Trout might get a little bit upset (seriously, boo effing hoo...but I highly doubt he would) is kinda dumb.
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Angelsjunky
Posted 2012-11-13 4:59 AM (#1878693 - in reply to #1878455)
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I think three players will have a significant impact: Richards, Maronde, and Calhoun. Richards, if healthy, will start 28+ games and produce a league average or better ERA - I think he's going to step it up this year. Maronde won't get much playing time until the second half, but I think he'll be a strong contributor at some point. I can't shake the feeling that Kole Calhoun has a career ahead of him and will get his chance this year - maybe 300 PA of .800 OPS production.

Dark horse candidates are Conger and Jimenez.
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ettin
Posted 2012-11-13 7:55 AM (#1878721 - in reply to #1878652)
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mrwicked - 2012-11-12 11:15 PM

tdawg87 - 2012-11-12 10:20 PM

ELEVEN - 2012-11-12 9:33 PM

Any scouting info on this Calrissian kid?


All I know is that he's a man, and not a system.


he's got a plus curve, can hit to all fields, and does well both out of the stretch and the windup especially when bunting to the warning track on hit n runs before going for his strike out pitch down the line.
total 5+1 tooler.


Don't forget that he has a Jeter-esque way with the ladies too!
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ucsbhubs
Posted 2012-11-13 11:36 AM (#1878858 - in reply to #1878455)
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Richards is definitely in the best position to have an impact. Maronde too can easily secure playing time.

Yet, offensively it still comes down to the young guys every one knows about: Trumbo, Bourjos and the ones that have a shot at breaking in: Calhoun, Conger, Jimenez, Romine,
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Jimmag
Posted 2012-11-13 12:42 PM (#1878885 - in reply to #1878455)
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At 32 years of age he is not young however he will be a rookie (if we get him signed).

The Most Powerful Angels wish to announce breakout player of the year from the Far East, Made in Japan the Most Honorable Kyuji Fujikawa with no ribbons of shame on his record.

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Soto Speaks
Posted 2012-11-13 1:12 PM (#1878905 - in reply to #1878455)
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Trout back to back break out star.

Will be best 21-22 yr old

.425 avg
60 HR
140 R
145 SB
110 RBI

17 Game saving home runs.
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ELEVEN
Posted 2012-11-13 2:02 PM (#1878974 - in reply to #1878678)
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ScottyAllenLAAI - 2012-11-13 1:14 AM I feel confident that Calrissian will be the next great African American player. He flies, just the way Bourjos and Trout do, but he seems to have a millennial falcon type of power and it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to say he has a "laser" for an arm. All in all, a great all around player, and according to one scout who wished to be known only as Leah, he's quite the scoundrel, which means he exudes confidence and is a competitor. A great prospect, a lot of upside, his future lies somewhere in the clouds. Cloud city if you will.
Finally, a serious anwer.
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Ray McKigney
Posted 2012-11-13 2:07 PM (#1878982 - in reply to #1878678)
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ScottyAllenLAAI - 2012-11-13 1:14 AM

I feel confident that Calrissian will be the next great African American player. He flies, just the way Bourjos and Trout do, but he seems to have a millennial falcon type of power and it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to say he has a "laser" for an arm. All in all, a great all around player, and according to one scout who wished to be known only as Leah, he's quite the scoundrel, which means he exudes confidence and is a competitor.

A great prospect, a lot of upside, his future lies somewhere in the clouds. Cloud city if you will.



Yeah, but apparently he drinks way too much Colt 45.


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mrwicked
Posted 2012-11-13 3:44 PM (#1879096 - in reply to #1878905)
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Soto Speaks - 2012-11-13 1:12 PM

Trout back to back break out star.

Will be best 21-22 yr old

.425 avg
60 HR
140 R
145 SB
110 RBI

17 Game saving home runs.


lol due you are crazy!
.... only 110 RBIs?
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SO CAL HALOS FAN
Posted 2012-11-13 6:22 PM (#1879280 - in reply to #1878455)
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Posted 2012-11-13 6:47 PM (#1879290 - in reply to #1878455)
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Maronde, Bourjos and Richards seem to be the most likely candidates.

Edited by Mycorona135 2012-11-13 6:48 PM
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Posted 2012-11-13 7:32 PM (#1879328 - in reply to #1879290)
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I dont know about Lando, but chewbaccas my pick for wookie of the year.


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