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Josh Spence DFA'd
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ScottyAllenLAAI
Posted 2012-11-02 3:50 PM (#1870981)
Subject: Josh Spence DFA'd



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Former Angels 3rd round pick lefty Josh Spence from ASU was DFA'd by the Padres who magically grabbed him in the 9th round. This kid had first round talent and was a consensus Top 20 pick coming out of college until he had arm troubles. The Padres bought low, converted him from starter into a reliever and he was outstanding in their minor league system and in the majors in 2011. In 2012 he struggled with command but still posted passable numbers.

In terms of actual stuff, he's junk-baller. His slider is outstanding and his change up is very good. They make his 87 mph fastball really sneak up on hitters.

If I were Dipoto, I'd certainly claim this kid. The Angels already have lefty depth in AAA (Brad Mills, Andrew Taylor, Brandon Sisk and soon Nick Maronde) but I really don't think you can ever run out of good southpaws. He certainly has the upside and history of success in the major league level, Dipoto's worked with the Padres before and that deal turned out pretty well (Frieri). I'm not saying this will work solely because Frieir worked, but the Angels were interested before and this kid could be really good someday. Worst case scenario, he's a AAA flame out.
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djags45
Posted 2012-11-02 3:58 PM (#1870986 - in reply to #1870981)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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Worth a non-roster ST invite for sure.
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tdawg87
Posted 2012-11-02 4:01 PM (#1870989 - in reply to #1870981)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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Definitely should look at putting a claim in on him.
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AngelsAndRamsFan
Posted 2012-11-02 4:04 PM (#1870991 - in reply to #1870981)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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He reminds me of a LH version of O'Day. He pitched well in 2011 in limited innings (29).
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Vegas Halo Fan
Posted 2012-11-02 4:13 PM (#1871003 - in reply to #1870981)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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Can't do any harm to kick the tires.
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Angel Oracle
Posted 2012-11-02 4:21 PM (#1871020 - in reply to #1871003)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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+1

I'd take a flyer on him, and see if he can develop into someone resembling DO or a lefty O'Day.
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AngelClipperFanInOz
Posted 2012-11-02 5:51 PM (#1871216 - in reply to #1870981)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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I'm pretty damn surprised the Padres gave up on him so quickly. He's definitely worth a look.
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bloodbrother
Posted 2012-11-02 6:22 PM (#1871294 - in reply to #1870981)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd




Agreed, he had some good success out of their pen there.
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QuinlanForTheWin
Posted 2012-11-02 6:25 PM (#1871299 - in reply to #1870981)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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Spence>Marmol.

He was lights out for a few months for them.
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AngelsAndRamsFan
Posted 2012-11-06 3:53 PM (#1874090 - in reply to #1870981)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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The Yankees claimed him.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/yankees-claim-josh-spence-off...
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ScottyAllenLAAI
Posted 2012-11-06 3:56 PM (#1874096 - in reply to #1870981)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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It's a shame that a team that's hurting for necessary bullpen depth like the Angels wastes golden opportunities like this. I guess Dipoto and company had a different interpretation of his abilities as a pitcher.
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tdawg87
Posted 2012-11-06 4:01 PM (#1874104 - in reply to #1870981)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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Dumb.
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ettin
Posted 2012-11-06 4:27 PM (#1874125 - in reply to #1874096)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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ScottyAllenLAAI - 2012-11-06 3:56 PM

It's a shame that a team that's hurting for necessary bullpen depth like the Angels wastes golden opportunities like this. I guess Dipoto and company had a different interpretation of his abilities as a pitcher.


Well with all due respect, and I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you Scotty, the Padres are pretty good at developing pitching talent and if they didn't want him you have to ask yourself why they didn't want him anymore. It may just be a case that they needed to make room but Spence could easily be heading the route of Brandon Wood.... or not? We just don't have enough information to be honest.
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AZMike
Posted 2012-11-06 4:57 PM (#1874145 - in reply to #1870981)
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Seems like going "dumpster diving" for DFA'd pitchers like Spence would work out at least as well as hiring Izzy/Hawkins at significantly lower cost.
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Angel Oracle
Posted 2012-11-06 6:24 PM (#1874210 - in reply to #1874145)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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AZMike - 2012-11-06 4:57 PM

Seems like going "dumpster diving" for DFA'd pitchers like Spence would work out at least as well as hiring Izzy/Hawkins at significantly lower cost.


+1
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ScottyAllenLAAI
Posted 2012-11-06 8:00 PM (#1874266 - in reply to #1874125)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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Well I'd argue 2 points....

1. Brandon Wood never had as much success as Spence has had so far in the Major Leagues
2. Josh Spence still has options. If he wasn't ready for the major leagues (proven that he is) then you could stash him away in AAA until he shows you he's ready.

It just seems to me like a no-risk maneuver for a player that's proven to be a very good reliever, is young and cheap. Can't say they screwed the pooch or anything, it just seems like the Angels aren't nearly as active on the waiver wire as they should be.
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Angel Oracle
Posted 2012-11-07 10:46 AM (#1874734 - in reply to #1874266)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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Is that a Scioscia thing, or a FO thing?
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angelduck
Posted 2012-11-07 12:59 PM (#1874878 - in reply to #1870981)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd



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It's stupid. This organization doesn't take advantage of oppurtunities to get a low risk, cheap, proven arm. I guess they think Isringhausen and Hawkins are better fits for the bullpen.
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HaloU2
Posted 2012-11-07 1:06 PM (#1874893 - in reply to #1874878)
Subject: Re: Josh Spence DFA'd


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I have to agree with Ettin here. It's not like San Diego is so stocked on young, talented (if maybe somewhat injured) lefty pitchers that they couldn't have let him work through his injury. Seems very unusual that they'd simply cut bait. I wonder if we have the ability to have a dialogue with Buddy Black considering our previous relationship, or his people, and were scared off.
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