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nato2k
Posted 2011-11-30 3:53 PM (#1505611)
Subject: Angels Trade Chatwood for Iannetta



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Edited by nato2k 2011-11-30 4:23 PM
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tdawg87
Posted 2011-11-30 3:53 PM (#1505612 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Ianetta



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disarcina
Posted 2011-11-30 3:54 PM (#1505613 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Ianetta



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Iannetta? He couldn't reach expectations hitting in Coors Field?

Not sure where he is defensively but is this another Mathis?
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Chuck Richter
Posted 2011-11-30 3:55 PM (#1505614 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: RE: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Ianetta



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worldofx
Posted 2011-11-30 3:58 PM (#1505617 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Ianetta



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Confirmation that Hernandez coming to Rockies... Chatwood should be coming back from Angels.
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worldofx
Posted 2011-11-30 3:59 PM (#1505618 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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So Iannetta headed to Angels...Tyler chatwood started for Angels last year. Adds depth in rotation.
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beatlesrule
Posted 2011-11-30 3:59 PM (#1505619 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Ianetta



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What is so great about the guy? His numbers aren't impressive at all. The guy is a career .235 hitter and only throws out 25% of runners. Conger can do better than that all while switch hitting.
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Dude von Dudenstein
Posted 2011-11-30 4:01 PM (#1505620 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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Not a fan of this move at all.
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Angel Dog and Beer
Posted 2011-11-30 4:02 PM (#1505622 - in reply to #1505619)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Ianetta



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Not liking this at the moment. Not sure Ianetta is the piece or even a portion of the piece. I like Chatwood too, think he could be something good.
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tdawg87
Posted 2011-11-30 4:02 PM (#1505623 - in reply to #1505619)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Ianetta



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beatlesrule - 2011-11-30 3:59 PM

What is so great about the guy? His numbers aren't impressive at all. The guy is a career .235 hitter and only throws out 25% of runners. Conger can do better than that all while switch hitting.


The only thing that impresses me about him is his career .357 OBP. I guess Dipoto wasn't lying about valuing that stat.

That being said, Iannetta has been Mathis away from Coors. Literally. I hope the time he splits with Conger is pretty even.
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nato2k
Posted 2011-11-30 4:02 PM (#1505624 - in reply to #1505611)
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It doesn't make much sense to me either but the good thing is this almost guarantees that Mathis is gone.
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Angel Dog and Beer
Posted 2011-11-30 4:04 PM (#1505625 - in reply to #1505624)
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Man, what's Hernandez asking for? Why not just go hard after him?
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henry
Posted 2011-11-30 4:05 PM (#1505626 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta




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disarcina
Posted 2011-11-30 4:05 PM (#1505627 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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beatlesrule -- exactly right. Career .235 hitter; not that great defensively; in 2010 he had a Mathis like year at the plate hitting .197 in some 250 AB's (and playing home games at Coors Field).

his 'power' numbers show 22 HR average over 162 game season but he's never been a regular and his high water mark for HRs is 19 and those numbers were at COORS FIELD.

I'm just not sold on this guy and if we're giving up Chatwood, who did start a few games for us last year, we're giving up a potential 5th MLB starter and pen depth for a catcher who's sort of the other half of a Mathis bookend.
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dhawk
Posted 2011-11-30 4:05 PM (#1505628 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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although i hope there is abit more than a straigh Chatwood - Ianetta trade. I like the idea of bringing Ianetta on, but i feel Chatwood could draw more. Looks like we will be getting a #4 starter somewhere if Dipoto is tossing SP depth around like this
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Angel Oracle
Posted 2011-11-30 4:08 PM (#1505629 - in reply to #1505628)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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Ianetta/Chatwood is a bad trade for the Halos.

When was the last time he put up a decent OBP?
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Bourjesus22
Posted 2011-11-30 4:09 PM (#1505630 - in reply to #1505611)
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Is it 100% chatwood?
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tdawg87
Posted 2011-11-30 4:09 PM (#1505631 - in reply to #1505629)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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Angel Oracle - 2011-11-30 4:08 PM

Ianetta/Chatwood is a bad trade for the Halos.

When was the last time he put up a decent OBP?


lol, last season.
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Tyler
Posted 2011-11-30 4:09 PM (#1505632 - in reply to #1505631)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta


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Sketchy. I hope our new GM doesn't get raped in his first deal.
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LightTheHalo
Posted 2011-11-30 4:10 PM (#1505633 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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kevinstockerisgod
Posted 2011-11-30 4:11 PM (#1505634 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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serious question...are we overvaluing chatwood? would he have been in the rotation if injuries and ineffectiveness didn't call for it? Was he a huge minor prospect? Not trying to undersell him, I just got the feeling Richards was the bigger prospect. Also Iannetta, despite a .235 career average, does have a career .357 OBP and .788 OPS, and the walks are not all from IBBs, about a 1.5:1 K to Walk ratio. He hits home runs and will produce some RBIs.
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Taylor
Posted 2011-11-30 4:11 PM (#1505635 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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Cool trade bro.
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Angel Oracle
Posted 2011-11-30 4:11 PM (#1505636 - in reply to #1505631)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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tdawg87 - 2011-11-30 4:09 PM

Angel Oracle - 2011-11-30 4:08 PM

Ianetta/Chatwood is a bad trade for the Halos.

When was the last time he put up a decent OBP?


lol, last season.


D'oh

I did notice though that in 2010 it was just .316, although next to Math-isn't that is stardom.
His road slugging % in 2011 was just .266 though. That is Math-isn't like.
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Tyler
Posted 2011-11-30 4:11 PM (#1505637 - in reply to #1505634)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta


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As always, it depends on who the Angels give up.
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beatlesrule
Posted 2011-11-30 4:12 PM (#1505638 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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If Dipoto's first trade is a 21 year old SP that had an ERA under 5 last year for a mediocre 28 year old catcher not even better than Conger, put me down as not liking him so far.
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Angel Oracle
Posted 2011-11-30 4:12 PM (#1505639 - in reply to #1505633)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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LightTheHalo - 2011-11-30 4:10 PM

Last year with RISP: .310/.470/.548

For what it's worth.


Can we find the road stats for those?
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kevinstockerisgod
Posted 2011-11-30 4:13 PM (#1505640 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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I also noticed Iannetta has a career .995 Fielding %...so even though he throws out a career 25% of base runners, he most likely won't air mail it or throw to the wrong base.
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nato2k
Posted 2011-11-30 4:13 PM (#1505641 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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Chatwood is terrible and I do not mind losing him at all. Especially if it means Mathis gets DFA'd.
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wopphil
Posted 2011-11-30 4:14 PM (#1505643 - in reply to #1505611)
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we better be getting beatencourt or Street back too - Chatwood for Iannetta is way too much to give up.
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Peaches
Posted 2011-11-30 4:14 PM (#1505644 - in reply to #1505611)
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Dude has a .172 BA on the road. He must be Mathis' cousin or something.


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Taylor
Posted 2011-11-30 4:14 PM (#1505645 - in reply to #1505611)
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Iannetta had a 1.079 OPS last season

when he batted during the 5th inning.
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Peaches
Posted 2011-11-30 4:14 PM (#1505646 - in reply to #1505639)
Subject: Re: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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Angel Oracle - 2011-11-30 4:12 PM

LightTheHalo - 2011-11-30 4:10 PM

Last year with RISP: .310/.470/.548

For what it's worth.


Can we find the road stats for those?




http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=iannech01&ye...
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LightTheHalo
Posted 2011-11-30 4:15 PM (#1505647 - in reply to #1505611)
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tdawg87
Posted 2011-11-30 4:15 PM (#1505648 - in reply to #1505641)
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nato2k - 2011-11-30 4:13 PM

Chatwood is terrible


Don't think I would go that far. I wasn't impressed with him at all but he was still only 21 years old.
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Chuck Richter
Posted 2011-11-30 4:16 PM (#1505649 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: RE: Rosenthal: Angels Close To Getting Iannetta



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I love this trade if it goes down.
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Tyler
Posted 2011-11-30 4:16 PM (#1505650 - in reply to #1505641)
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nato2k - 2011-11-30 4:13 PM Chatwood is terrible and I do not mind losing him at all. Especially if it means Mathis gets DFA'd.

 

What were you doing at 21?

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nato2k
Posted 2011-11-30 4:16 PM (#1505651 - in reply to #1505611)
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So long, Mathis. You’d have been my favorite, if you were any good at all.


Lol.
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LightTheHalo
Posted 2011-11-30 4:17 PM (#1505652 - in reply to #1505611)
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For the record, his road/home splits scare the crap out of me, especially moving to more of a pitcher's park in Anaheim. Hopefully he and Conger share time and both hit well.
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nato2k
Posted 2011-11-30 4:17 PM (#1505653 - in reply to #1505611)
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Posted 2011-11-30 4:17 PM (#1505654 - in reply to #1505611)
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Always interesting to see the various reactions.


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Cannot imagine the #Angels are giving up Chatwood only in the Iannetta trade. There has to be another minor-leaguer heading to COL, right?
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tdawg87
Posted 2011-11-30 4:18 PM (#1505655 - in reply to #1505652)
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LightTheHalo - 2011-11-30 4:17 PM

For the record, his road/home splits scare the crap out of me, especially moving to more of a pitcher's park in Anaheim. Hopefully he and Conger share time and both hit well.


Yep. The road splits are definitely a concern, and I agree with him sharing equal time with Conger.
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Posted 2011-11-30 4:19 PM (#1505656 - in reply to #1505633)
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LightTheHalo - 2011-11-30 4:10 PM

Last year with RISP: .310/.470/.548

For what it's worth.


About a nickel, since it's a small sample size (117 PA). The year before, he hit .191/.409/.404 with RISP. Though for his career, he's at .268//.415/.499.

I notice that his OBP with RISP is very high. I wonder if that's a function of him frequently hitting 8th, meaning opposing teams are pitching around him to get to the pitcher?

(Side note: he's a UNC grad, which makes him a huge liability, obviously.)
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kevinstockerisgod
Posted 2011-11-30 4:20 PM (#1505657 - in reply to #1505611)
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Conger/Wilson will definitely play...it's good to see a catcher that can get on base
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Chuck Richter
Posted 2011-11-30 4:20 PM (#1505658 - in reply to #1505647)
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LightTheHalo - 2011-11-30 4:15 PM

Career with RISP: .268/.415/.499

For what it's worth.


That too!

Oh and kills it at Angel Stadium. :-)

2010 - .333/.333/.889, 1 HR, 2 2B, 3 Runs, 8 TB's.
2009 - .300/.462/.400, 1 2B, 3 Hits, 2 HBP
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Posted 2011-11-30 4:21 PM (#1505659 - in reply to #1505658)
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Who we giving up?
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Posted 2011-11-30 4:22 PM (#1505660 - in reply to #1505611)
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His splits suck, no thank you.
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kevinstockerisgod
Posted 2011-11-30 4:23 PM (#1505662 - in reply to #1505611)
Subject: Re: Angels Trade Chatwood for Iannetta.



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nato2k
Posted 2011-11-30 4:23 PM (#1505663 - in reply to #1505611)
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Posted 2011-11-30 4:23 PM (#1505664 - in reply to #1505655)
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LightTheHalo - 2011-11-30 4:17 PM

For the record, his road/home splits scare the crap out of me, especially moving to more of a pitcher's park in Anaheim. Hopefully he and Conger share time and both hit well.


Yep. The road splits are definitely a concern, and I agree with him sharing equal time with Conger.
Definitely scares me too. I'm not sure about an equal split, I'd be thinking somewhere around 90/70 or 100/60 favoring Iannetta.

It's hard to know what to make of this trade. I was never sold on Chatwood, but I'm not convinced Iannetta is going to be the answer. He definitely isn't a guy who will fix this team's hitting woes by himself.
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Posted 2011-11-30 4:23 PM (#1505665 - in reply to #1505611)
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The Tony Dipoto era is off with a bang! Big SPLASH!!!
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